I will do it tomorrow evening...
Phil

Le Tuesday 13 June 2006 20:17, Youness Alaoui a écrit :
> On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:44:24 -0400, Philippe Valembois - Phil
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I totally agree with you... Users have to use perfect softwares and not
> > buggy
> > drivers...
> > Anyway, I try to know where is the bug... Why ? Because with that it's
> > the
> > first time I hack in the kernel level... And I like that ;) It's so bad I
> > haven't a pwc compliant cam. Else, I already had tracked the bug and
> > sent a
> > patch to Luc Saillard... (Doesn't open source means bring your help to
> > all
> > the edifice ?)
>
> Cool! congrats! :)
>
> > Phil
> > P.S. Totally OT but should we apply the holly_wood patch about DPs in
> > directories ?
>
> I think so, yes, but only in /trunk, it should never go in the 0.96
> branch. Please include this info in the commit log so we don't forget...
>
> > Le Monday 12 June 2006 22:54, Youness Alaoui a écrit :
> >> not only that, but we'd need to shift the responsability... we really
> >> should stop being so nice to the users, look at what happened lately in
> >> the forums because of AA fonts and tcl/tk 8.5... he was a stupid bastard
> >> but let's take his example....
> >> why bother if the problem isn't ours ? If users complain, we just need
> >> to
> >> say "it's a driver bug, not an amsn bug, don't bother us", EVEN if we
> >> know
> >> the solution to it. We had so much work to do because of pwc, I'm fed up
> >> with it now.
> >> If a user has Tcl/Tk 8.0 and has a bug, we won't say "ohh, you need to
> >> modify this and this line", no, we'll just say "upgrade, you can't, then
> >> it's your problem", it's a requirement, in the same way a program can
> >> require Windows XP to run instead of Windows 3.1 for example.
> >> Now, if we let Luc Saillard know about this issue, he might fix it and
> >> provide a new version.. so when people complain, instead of telling them
> >> to fuck off, we'll just say "upgrade your driver"...
> >> The thing is, what you said below is not true, you say "we cannot assume
> >> all users will upgrade", oh yeah ? then it's their problem, it's their
> >> choice, not ours, they didn't want to upgrade, so it's not our fault...
> >> also, the users will know how to upgrade and will have root access...
> >> you
> >> know why ? because the bug is with v4l2 not with v4l, and the only pwc
> >> driver that supports v4l2 is Saillard's driver, which is unofficial and
> >> not shipped anywhere, so if a user has the problem it means he has
> >> Saillard's driver which means he installed it himself, which means he
> >> has
> >> root access and he knows how to install it. If I'm wrong, then again,
> >> it's
> >> not our problem.
> >> Do you agree with me ?
> >>
> >> KKRT
> >
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