On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 09:19:09PM -0700, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer wrote:
> Bah tu sais, je suis un gars de get things done, ce que je veux faire  
> pour aMSN c'est compléter les versions, le rush avant la release,  
> travailler plusieurs heures à corriger des petits bugs, réviser la  
> todo, botter des culs, organiser par IRC, conclure les trucs, bref  
> tout ce qui manque pour faire une release. Je suis pas un grand  
> programmeur, je fais du bug fixing, je suis pas capable de sortir des  
> features comme tu le fais, tes un gars de coding, mais moi ce que  
> j'aime c'est conclure le tout, voir le travail au bout. Et cette  
> ambivalence par rapport à 0.96 depuis un certain temps m'a fait  
> chier, le fait d'avoir rien à faire, donc j'ai rien fait, j'attendais  
> que quelqu'un se réveille. Je suis un gars de release, une fois que  
> ça sera fait je vais m'en aller pour un temps et laisser les grands  
> jouer avec les voice clips et la compilation. Je me suis pas connecté  
> à MSN depuis environ 1 mois, je garde Skype pour parler avec ma  
> famille et Google Talk(Jabber, avec iChat) pour 2-3 amis très proche.  
> And you know what, I don't miss it! Pour la release je ferai mes  
> tests avec mon accompte de test, voilà tout. Pour me parler c'est le  
> téléphone ou c'est l'email ou c'est rien (je peux appeler gratos au  
> Québec ou en france ou ailleurs, je vais avoir besoin de parler à Tom  
> H soon).
> 
Ok, lol, la ML en french, c bizarre.. en tt k, si c le cas, je te designe un 
nouveau role.. on 
va faire ca en anglais cette fois...

Ok, well, from what you said, you're a guy who loves doing releases and getting 
some butts 
kicked and be in the final rush before the releases.. in that case, I will 
gladly give you the 
new, open position of "release butt-kicker".. too bad SF doesn't have that in 
its list of 
roles.. anyways, I'm also fed up like you, but I'm not that good at motivating 
people or making 
release-related decisions, so if you want, you can start doing that.. you 
decide on EVERYTHING 
about the release of 0.96.. once it's done, if you want to keep bug fixing, 
then cool, if you 
don't, then you can sleep again, but when you feel the time has come for 0.97, 
it will be your 
responsability to start a new thread with the subject "0.97 release in XX 
days..." and announce 
the feature freeze and make everyone move to the final steps...
do you accept the position offered? :)


> For the Mac version, as I did with 0.95, we're gonna keep our own  
> skin.  Someone on the Linux/Windows decide should decide if they  
> change skin, if you do a small contest as a vote for the forum, if  
> you change for Emerald. I don't want to make a decision but I expect  
> this to be all decided / commited by the end of october, if you don't  
> take a decision then let's keep everything as it is right now. So  
> Windows/Linux guy, DO SOMETHING.
> 

aha! that's why you don't want the contest, because it doesn't affect it :p 
anyways, for me too, 
I don't care, I only suggested the contest when users on the forums requested 
emerald to become 
the new default one... then I proposed the contest... 
Lee has an idea about this, I'll let him post his thoughts himself.

KKRT

> Jérôme
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> 
> Le 14 octobre 2006 à 19:45, Youness Alaoui a écrit :
> 
> >lol, et toi qu'elle mouche t'a pique? je te vois jamais sur msn, je  
> >voulais te parler depuis
> >trop longtemps sans jamais te trouver... et toi aussi t'es rentre  
> >dans le cercle de
> >l'inactivite, j'aimerais bien retrouver l'equipe active d'autrefois...
> >
> >Anyways, about 0.96, as you always know, I never make the  
> >decisions, I propose them, if you
> >prefer to release 0.96 now and leave the contest for a new skin for  
> >0.97, then ok, if you prefer
> >to do the contest with what we already have, then it's also ok for  
> >me... a lot of users on the
> >forums already proposed Emerald as the new skin, maybe it's a good  
> >choice, I never tried it, so
> >I can't tell..
> >Before, we wanted to do the contest, but we never did, I don't know  
> >the reasons, I think it's
> >because we decided to get 0.95 out for christmas and didn't want to  
> >wait for the contest... if
> >we're in a similar situation now, then let's forget about the  
> >contest... and I think we are, but
> >I'm not sure...
> >What I would prefer is to release 0.96 as soon as we move to the  
> >new website... move everything,
> >announce the new URL, and release... in that case, we won't wait  
> >for the contest... maybe do a
> >quick poll in the forums and that's it ? or maybe announce it at  
> >the same time as 0.96 since
> >we'll get more users to check the website...
> >what do you think ?
> >
> >KKRT
> >
> >On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 05:35:37PM -0700, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer wrote:
> >>Mon dieu qu'elle mouche t'a piquée? T'es tu levé du mauvais côté ce
> >>matin? Genre tu es tombé du lit, ta tête a frappé ton ordinateur, et
> >>la t'a accroché le bouton du clavier pour envoyer un message à propos
> >>de la version 0.96?
> >>
> >>Screw the contest, IMO, just a way to lose more time, is it what we
> >>tried last year before 0.95 and then finally we never did it? Or we
> >>did it and didn't get any new skin? There's already a lot of skins
> >>available, just look at mac forums and your own forums, just put
> >>someone in charge to order everything on a webpage, get a vote on the
> >>skins available, and here we go.
> >>
> >>Jérôme
> >>Blog: http://j-mac-blog.blogspot.com
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> >>Skype: germinator5000
> >>
> >>
> >>Le 14 octobre 2006 à 03:19, Youness Alaoui a écrit :
> >>
> >>>Hi there...
> >>>I think it's time to think about the 0.96 release!!!!
> >>>I think we should :
> >>>1 - finally start the contest for the new 'default skin' (Lee, I
> >>>hope you're still there with plenty of ideas)
> >>>2 - announce it at the same time as we announce the move to the new
> >>>server...
> >>>3 - get amsn 0.96 out as soon as the contest finishes... (in a
> >>>month or two?)
> >>>
> >>>so, here should be the 0.96 TODO.. if anyone has anything in his
> >>>pending list.. now is the time to add it to the TODO and/or
> >>>to DO IT...
> >>>The countdown has began!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>KKRT
> >>>
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