I'd suggest releasing 0.96 TODAY :) :)

forget about skin contests and similar until next release!

Greets.

On 10/15/06, Youness Alaoui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 09:19:09PM -0700, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer wrote:
> > Bah tu sais, je suis un gars de get things done, ce que je veux faire
> > pour aMSN c'est compléter les versions, le rush avant la release,
> > travailler plusieurs heures à corriger des petits bugs, réviser la
> > todo, botter des culs, organiser par IRC, conclure les trucs, bref
> > tout ce qui manque pour faire une release. Je suis pas un grand
> > programmeur, je fais du bug fixing, je suis pas capable de sortir des
> > features comme tu le fais, tes un gars de coding, mais moi ce que
> > j'aime c'est conclure le tout, voir le travail au bout. Et cette
> > ambivalence par rapport à 0.96 depuis un certain temps m'a fait
> > chier, le fait d'avoir rien à faire, donc j'ai rien fait, j'attendais
> > que quelqu'un se réveille. Je suis un gars de release, une fois que
> > ça sera fait je vais m'en aller pour un temps et laisser les grands
> > jouer avec les voice clips et la compilation. Je me suis pas connecté
> > à MSN depuis environ 1 mois, je garde Skype pour parler avec ma
> > famille et Google Talk(Jabber, avec iChat) pour 2-3 amis très proche.
> > And you know what, I don't miss it! Pour la release je ferai mes
> > tests avec mon accompte de test, voilà tout. Pour me parler c'est le
> > téléphone ou c'est l'email ou c'est rien (je peux appeler gratos au
> > Québec ou en france ou ailleurs, je vais avoir besoin de parler à Tom
> > H soon).
> >
> Ok, lol, la ML en french, c bizarre.. en tt k, si c le cas, je te designe un 
> nouveau role.. on
> va faire ca en anglais cette fois...
>
> Ok, well, from what you said, you're a guy who loves doing releases and 
> getting some butts
> kicked and be in the final rush before the releases.. in that case, I will 
> gladly give you the
> new, open position of "release butt-kicker".. too bad SF doesn't have that in 
> its list of
> roles.. anyways, I'm also fed up like you, but I'm not that good at 
> motivating people or making
> release-related decisions, so if you want, you can start doing that.. you 
> decide on EVERYTHING
> about the release of 0.96.. once it's done, if you want to keep bug fixing, 
> then cool, if you
> don't, then you can sleep again, but when you feel the time has come for 
> 0.97, it will be your
> responsability to start a new thread with the subject "0.97 release in XX 
> days..." and announce
> the feature freeze and make everyone move to the final steps...
> do you accept the position offered? :)
>
>
> > For the Mac version, as I did with 0.95, we're gonna keep our own
> > skin.  Someone on the Linux/Windows decide should decide if they
> > change skin, if you do a small contest as a vote for the forum, if
> > you change for Emerald. I don't want to make a decision but I expect
> > this to be all decided / commited by the end of october, if you don't
> > take a decision then let's keep everything as it is right now. So
> > Windows/Linux guy, DO SOMETHING.
> >
>
> aha! that's why you don't want the contest, because it doesn't affect it :p 
> anyways, for me too,
> I don't care, I only suggested the contest when users on the forums requested 
> emerald to become
> the new default one... then I proposed the contest...
> Lee has an idea about this, I'll let him post his thoughts himself.
>
> KKRT
>
> > Jérôme
> > Blog: http://j-mac-blog.blogspot.com
> > Courriel:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > MSN Messenger:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > iChat & AIM:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Skype: germinator5000
> >
> >
> > Le 14 octobre 2006 à 19:45, Youness Alaoui a écrit :
> >
> > >lol, et toi qu'elle mouche t'a pique? je te vois jamais sur msn, je
> > >voulais te parler depuis
> > >trop longtemps sans jamais te trouver... et toi aussi t'es rentre
> > >dans le cercle de
> > >l'inactivite, j'aimerais bien retrouver l'equipe active d'autrefois...
> > >
> > >Anyways, about 0.96, as you always know, I never make the
> > >decisions, I propose them, if you
> > >prefer to release 0.96 now and leave the contest for a new skin for
> > >0.97, then ok, if you prefer
> > >to do the contest with what we already have, then it's also ok for
> > >me... a lot of users on the
> > >forums already proposed Emerald as the new skin, maybe it's a good
> > >choice, I never tried it, so
> > >I can't tell..
> > >Before, we wanted to do the contest, but we never did, I don't know
> > >the reasons, I think it's
> > >because we decided to get 0.95 out for christmas and didn't want to
> > >wait for the contest... if
> > >we're in a similar situation now, then let's forget about the
> > >contest... and I think we are, but
> > >I'm not sure...
> > >What I would prefer is to release 0.96 as soon as we move to the
> > >new website... move everything,
> > >announce the new URL, and release... in that case, we won't wait
> > >for the contest... maybe do a
> > >quick poll in the forums and that's it ? or maybe announce it at
> > >the same time as 0.96 since
> > >we'll get more users to check the website...
> > >what do you think ?
> > >
> > >KKRT
> > >
> > >On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 05:35:37PM -0700, Jérôme Gagnon-Voyer wrote:
> > >>Mon dieu qu'elle mouche t'a piquée? T'es tu levé du mauvais côté ce
> > >>matin? Genre tu es tombé du lit, ta tête a frappé ton ordinateur, et
> > >>la t'a accroché le bouton du clavier pour envoyer un message à propos
> > >>de la version 0.96?
> > >>
> > >>Screw the contest, IMO, just a way to lose more time, is it what we
> > >>tried last year before 0.95 and then finally we never did it? Or we
> > >>did it and didn't get any new skin? There's already a lot of skins
> > >>available, just look at mac forums and your own forums, just put
> > >>someone in charge to order everything on a webpage, get a vote on the
> > >>skins available, and here we go.
> > >>
> > >>Jérôme
> > >>Blog: http://j-mac-blog.blogspot.com
> > >>Courriel:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>MSN Messenger:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>iChat & AIM:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>Skype: germinator5000
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Le 14 octobre 2006 à 03:19, Youness Alaoui a écrit :
> > >>
> > >>>Hi there...
> > >>>I think it's time to think about the 0.96 release!!!!
> > >>>I think we should :
> > >>>1 - finally start the contest for the new 'default skin' (Lee, I
> > >>>hope you're still there with plenty of ideas)
> > >>>2 - announce it at the same time as we announce the move to the new
> > >>>server...
> > >>>3 - get amsn 0.96 out as soon as the contest finishes... (in a
> > >>>month or two?)
> > >>>
> > >>>so, here should be the 0.96 TODO.. if anyone has anything in his
> > >>>pending list.. now is the time to add it to the TODO and/or
> > >>>to DO IT...
> > >>>The countdown has began!
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>KKRT
> > >>>
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