Maybe gus is not used to the english idioms and expressions (I think I noticed that a couple of times where he misinterpreted something). And concerning pressure, yes I do know that Gus is going through a lot lately, and for that reason, I proposed to him to just take some time off and relax, but I think the best way to relax for him is to work on the skin. And about 'it is just how he is', I would saw that it is also valid. so he's being stressed + it's his nature :) (If anyone disagrees.. of course, say so) About that comment of being polite doesn't mean to be hypocrite. I agree, but we also say "politeness is the most acceptable hypocrisy" :) so it actually depends on our concepts, definitions of the term and our own interpretation :) If some words hurt someone, of course, you shouldn't use them anymore, but then in this case it wouldn't benefit Gus if he gets no replies at all about his skin :p It's just the over-abused use of 'sorry, please don't be mad at me because I try to help' that kept bothering me. I think the biggest way to show Gus how much his work is appreciated, is by looking at how many replies he gets.. the threads with most replies in the forums are for Gus's skins.. that shows an incredible support and appreciation of his work.. even my 'voice clips support' didn't do that many waves...
KKRT On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 05:22:18AM -0400, for spam wrote: > And I'd like to add, Tom wasn't even mean... So either Gus is not used to > the English idioms and expressions, or maybe Gus is under some kind of > pressure in the university or in his life... or it is just how he is... so > as you said before, since it is a community some understanding and > politeness would be grateful, isn't it...? (maybe some extra for some > people) > Being polite doesn't mean to be hypocrite. If you sense that some words > hurts to some susceptible ones, well there is no justification to keep using > it toward someone. > > Well, just an opinion, > Dank > > On 10/24/06, for spam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >Gustavo no seas tan llorón. Lo que dice Youness es verdad. Una crítica es > >constructiva si la critica menciona y describe los errores, sin importar el > >énfasis despectivo que le agregue. (ejemplo, el colorbar apesta horrores, > >es > >un asco viejo) Una crítica no es constructiva si es fanática, sin > >fundamentos ni especificar en concreto cuál es el error o lléndose de > >tema. > >(ejemplo, sos un imbecil) > >Para finalizar, una crítica JAMAS es destructiva. Ofensiva, tal vez, > >descortés, puede ser; inutil jamás. > > > >Sos muy suceptible y tenés que aprender a aceptar críticas, porque está > >en > >vos en ver más allá de las críticas y llegar a la opinión útil para > >sacarle > >provecho. > > > >Suerte, Gus y no te desanimes. > > > >Dank > > > >--English Translation-- > > > >Gustavo, don't be wussy. What Youness said is true, a comment is > >constructive if the criticism shows and describes the errors, no matter > >the emphasis given. (eg, the colorbar has a stinky color, it's a piece of > >crap) A criticism is not constructive if it is fanatic and unfounded, not > >mentioning any details of the mistake or being offtopic. (eg, you suck) > >To wrap-up, a criticism NEVER is destructive. Offensive, maybe, unpolite, > >possibly; but never USELESS. > > > >You are too susceptible to criticism and you have to learn to accept it, > >because it is only in you to see through the critics and take advantage of > >the useful opinions. > > > >I wish you good luck Gus and do not give up. > > > >Dank > > > >On 10/24/06, Youness Alaoui <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > >> > >> Relax gus, it was a CRITIC, if you want to be a good designer, graphic > >> artist, you have to LEARN how to ACCEPT CRITICS, > >> the dull/dirt/grubby (and "who knows what more") are a description of > >> the feel of the colorbar.. if they said "I don't > >> like it", you would have yelled that it's not a constructive comment > >> because they didn't say what they disliked in it. > >> If you intend to participate in improving the default skin, you have to > >> learn to accept critics.. I thought we already > >> discussed this a long time ago on IRC and I thought you learned your > >> lesson, but it seems you didn't. AND I AM FED UP > >> with all those messages you get 'I don't like this, but please don't > >> take it the wrong way, I just want to help, but the > >> rest of your work, I swear is great, you're a great man"... there have > >> already been a few on this mailing list in this > >> thread, and I'm not even counting the numerous "I swear you did a great > >> job and please don't take my comment the wrong > >> way" that are on the forums.. you have a personality which says "I just > >> want to be praised and I refuse anything that > >> says what I did is bad".. WAKE UP!!!!! this is a community here, we all > >> work together, not one against the other, and if > >> you want to be part of the community you have to let people speak AS > >> THEY LIKE. If I want to tell you "your work is crap, > >> just toss it in the trash, it's worthless, I hate it", you should answer > >> with "ok, thx for letting me know your feeling, > >> I'll try to make it better next time". Ask Lee, he had a huge load of > >> disgustful critics and insults on his skin, yet he > >> accepted them. It was painful and I understand that, but he was also > >> mature enough to understand that it's how people > >> felt with his skin. > >> I DO NOT WANT ANYONE TO BE HYPOCRITE ANYMORE WITH GUS. If you hate > >> something, tell him straight "that colorbar is shit", > >> if I see another hypocrite "don't take it wrong" message, I'll be > >> yelling myself at the one who wrote it. Gus, you need > >> to "not take it the wrong way" yourself without people explicitly saying > >> it. > >> Tom, you gave a constructive comment, and I prohibit you from > >> apologizing to Gus, he has to learn one day on another to > >> accept critics. > >> Now Gus, you have two choices : > >> 1 - Apologize for your bad temper and start being nicer > >> 2 - ignore this mail, don't answer it until we straighten this thing out > >> on private over MSN. > >> Anyways, I also have other stuff to straighten out with you about the > >> improved default skin. > >> Now everyone.. nothing more to see, get back to work! > >> > >> KaKaRoTo > >> > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 09:23:23PM -0300, Gustavo A. Díaz wrote: > >> > 2006/10/23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >: > >> > > > >> > >One thing I'd say about the contact list is thwe divider between the > >> top > >> > >and bottom (the blue crystal bar thing) looks ugly to me - even > >> though it's > >> > >smaller than before. I think a thin grey line (possibly fading to > >> either > >> > >side) would suit your skin far better.... that bar to me just looks > >> chunky > >> > >and out of place (the drop shadow especially gives it a > >> dull/dirty/grubby > >> > >look) > >> > >Just my opinion :) > >> > > > >> > >I do like the buddy icons though :) > >> > >Btw, how are you having a background image on the menubar? I hope you > >> > >realise we cant use pixmapmenu :P > >> > >Tom > >> > > > >> > > >> > ... Something i forgot to say because i was hurry, like i don't like > >> to keep > >> > things.... Please give constructive suggestion, not destructive > >> ones... if > >> > you dislike the colorbar, will be enought to say "i dislike it, does > >> not go > >> > with the skin, etc etc etc". Not dull/dirty/grubby/uggly/chunky [...] > >> and > >> > who knows what more... > >> > Maybe is to much to ask? > >> > Just my opinion :) > >> > >> > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > >> security? > >> > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > >> easier > >> > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > >> Geronimo > >> > > >> http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Amsn-devel mailing list > >> > Amsn-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amsn-devel > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> Using Tomcat but need to do more? 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