Yeah, I agree, BLT would be great, I just don't know the level of compatibility 
we have with BLT. I quickly read the man 
page and it seems it's a "non-editable text widget" so it seems you can't add 
text to it, but only use $htext configure 
-text "..." 

I think that if I'm right, it's a very bad idea to use that for the chat window 
as it needs to insert text everytime and 
because it can get huge, which will be a huge performance issue everytime you 
add new text to it...

I also wasn't able to find the option for having a background image..looking at 
the demo provided with blt, it seems to 
be set by using the options set command on htext.tile but that line was 
commented.. why ? maybe it's because it's 
buggy... anyways, the option is probably -tile, but it's undocumented...

About bugs, I opened up wishblt.exe and sourced htext.tcl from the demos and 
wish just crashed... looking at SF, it 
seems the last release was in 2002. Humm.. just as I thought the project was 
dead, I took a look at CVS and I found pretty fast 
this : 
http://blt.cvs.sourceforge.net/blt/blt/src/bltBind.c?view=diff&r1=text&tr1=1.28&r2=text&tr2=1.27&diff_format=h
looks like some coding has been done, and it's 13 days old, so the project 
isn't dead, the last commit on bltHtext.c 
was 2 months ago, but nothing significant... anyways,  I wonder how far from 
stable the CVS is...  maybe talking to the 
original author might help us in knowing that information. 

Also, it doesn't seem to have any tag support or anything, so it's quite 
tricky.. I don't know how we could have the 
'clickable' text (for urls for example, or accept/reject FT...) for images, we 
can't embed them, but we could embed a 
label that contains those images...
I think if we were to do this, it would be best if we used it for the CL, so we 
can build the contact list in a string, 
then pass it to BLT to show it, since we already clear the whole widget 
everytime... but I'm still not sure about how 
feasable this is :(

btw.. Tom was working on an implementation of a text widget using canvas or 
tkhtml... where's that work ? disappeared 
forever? and what's the status ? Tom, could you maybe add that work to SVN in a 
new directory or branch or something ?
Also, we did have a bg-enabled CL, I know it was working well, but had some 
bugs, then it was dropped.. question is.. 
why dropped ? who decided to drop it and what were the reasons.. sorry if I 
missed the discussion and I'm reopening it.. 
but I'm just wondering why all that work got thrown away ?

that's it for now, it's already a huge babbling email...

KKRT


On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 08:56:01AM +0100, Boris Faure (aka billiob) wrote:
> I agree about BLT.
> 
> About Transparency, it seems it's a mess, since no package is working
> on all platforms. And that's a pity.
> 
> On 11/30/06, Jonne Zutt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Great. I think we should do it! Users have asked many times already
> > whether they could have a background on their chatwindow.
> > Would make a nice feature for new version of amsn ;)
> > Perhaps as part of Chameleon, if no hacks are necessary outside of
> > Chameleon in that case.
> >
> > JeeBee.
> >
> > On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 00:04 -0500, Youness Alaoui wrote:
> > > Hey there,
> > > I was looking at an old tracker item I once created (in 2003) for aMSN on 
> > > tk-toolkit, here is the link
> > > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=802296&group_id=12997&atid=362997
> > > On now that we changed our philosophy (of amsn having nothing compiled in 
> > > it), I thought we could go with such a
> > > solution.. look here : http://wiki.tcl.tk/199
> > > You see the text widget with a background ? it's a hypertext widget 
> > > actually, here's the man page :
> > > http://www-bio3d-igbmc.u-strasbg.fr/doclib/blt/htext.html
> > > So how about we change the chatwindow and CL text widgets to use that ?? 
> > > maybe the CL would be difficult because it uses
> > > fancy stuff, but the chat window doesn't do anything, I'm sure it's 
> > > doable (the only problem I would see is concerning
> > > smileys being elided (needed for the copy/paste of smileys)
> > > If we can modify that, it would be great!
> 
> 
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