true, I didn't notice the button, I guess yet another "just make it work" 
thing... an icon for the winwrite 
should definitely be added!
thx for noticing.

KKRT

On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 05:41:02PM +0200, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
> 
> I tried again just now, but it complained about snack not being installed. 
> Question: is a scenario where I don't have snack but I do want webcam 
> valid? In this case, we should inform the user that audio can only be used 
> with snack but still let them configure the webcam.
> 
> Missing things: 1) lowrescam 2) "I want to make my webcam available to 
> others" 3) FAQ/Help
> (How about whether we are firewalled? This influences the webcam quality)
> 
> Also, a cosmetic issue (unrelated though): When we WinWrite audio stuff, 
> we use the pixmap used for the "send voice clip" button in the CW. Well, I 
> modified my skin and added an icon with some button-ish bevel and stuff, 
> and guess what, a "real" button got WinWritten in the CW! So, I was seeing 
> the text that said "Received voice clip" with a fake voice button next to 
> it, and even though I had understood what was wrong, I kept clicking on 
> the button-looking pixmap! LOL... I guess we should add another pixmap for 
> the WinWrite :)
> 
> Enough for now, I must run...
> 
> Viv
> 
> On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, Youness Alaoui wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > I also just tried it, after the welcome screen, I directly get a 
> > blank/white screen with a black frame in it (I 
> > guess webcam preview ?) 
> > no text at all.. apart from the header which reads "set up webcam device 
> > and channel step 2/3" but it should be 
> > the first step... secondly, I tried on windows, there's no 'channel' in 
> > windows, so it shouldn't talk about 
> > choosing channel + it would need some text when you have no webcam at least 
> > :p 
> > then I clicked the 'back' button to go back to the welcome screen... 
> > instead I just got the SAME window, with 
> > the same header, but now it says step 3/3 instead of 2/3, so I can't go 
> > back... 
> > when I do next, it shows the same thing but the black frame is on the left 
> > not the right, and it has a tk frame 
> > border around it and it gave me the bug shwon below.. I agree on what vivia 
> > said about the volume, but is it 
> > just a widnows issue or is it normal that the frame is totally blank(white) 
> > with no text whatsoever and with 
> > those tk frmes showing in it like floating in the air ? because I see not 
> > text :s
> > I also think when choosing output device/mixer, one should be chosen by 
> > default instead of letting the user 
> > figure out which one to choose.
> > The test play is ok (I didn't have my headphone +at work, so don't know) 
> > but the waveform is fixed, I don't see 
> > it moving or anything, i click on 'play' and the waveform just appears, 
> > static, like a fixed image.. is it 
> > normal ?
> > record has no record button.
> > and when I 'finished' I pressed back and got another bug (see below), but I 
> > couldn't reproduce... 
> > I also don't know if it's normal but the webcam icon in the top-right of 
> > the assistant welcome screen disappear 
> > in the next steps.. maybe it should stay.. what I think would be best is to 
> > have a webcam and a microphone icon 
> > in the welcome screen, then when configuring the webcam, have only webcam 
> > icon, and when sound output, have a 
> > speaker icon, and the sound input, the microphone icon. but those are not 
> > important..
> > when no cam is detected, it should say so, and disable the webcam clientcap 
> > thing... otherwise what we have now 
> > + we should have the 'allow users to see my webcam checkbox' and we have a 
> > lot of missing text :) 
> > and btw, I don't know what the HIG says, but should the button be "close" 
> > or "finish"? i also think the finish 
> > should be on the right, no ? don't know, I'm not the HIG man!
> > 
> > Anyways, I know I wrote a lot of comments, but you know me... it's a great 
> > job so far, keep it up! :D
> > thx 
> > 
> > bugs :
> > next on step 2/3 :
> > 10:29:14] >>> GOT TCL/TK ERROR : {{can't read "::CAMGUI::webcam_preview": 
> > no such variable}}
> > >>> Stack:
> > can't read "::CAMGUI::webcam_preview": no such variable
> >     while executing
> > "::Capture::IsValid $::CAMGUI::webcam_preview"
> >     (procedure "::AVAssistant::Step2W" line 44)
> >     invoked from within
> > "::AVAssistant::Step2W .assistant2 .assistant2.bodyf.contentf"
> >     ("eval" body line 1)
> >     invoked from within
> > "eval [lindex [lindex $steps_l $steps_l_i] 2] $self [$self 
> > clearContentFrame]"
> >     (procedure "::assistant::Snit_methodnext" line 44)
> >     invoked from within
> > "::assistant::Snit_methodnext ::assistant ::assistant::Snit_inst3 
> > .assistant2 .assistant2"
> >     ("uplevel" body line 1)
> >     invoked from within
> > "uplevel 1 $command $args"
> >     invoked from within
> > ".assistant2 next"
> >     invoked from within
> > ".assistant2.buttonf.next invoke"
> >     ("uplevel" body line 1)
> >     invoked from within
> > "uplevel #0 [list $w invoke]"
> >     (procedure "tk::ButtonUp" line 24)
> >     invoked from within
> > "tk::ButtonUp .assistant2.buttonf.next"
> >     (command bound to event)
> > >>> Code: NONE
> > 
> > pressing finish :
> > invalid command name "procToCall"
> >     while executing
> > "procToCall .assistant2 .assistant2.bodyf.contentf"
> >     ("eval" body line 1)
> >     invoked from within
> > "eval procToCall $self $contentf"
> >     (procedure "::assistant::Snit_destructor" line 20)
> >     invoked from within
> > "${type}::Snit_destructor $type $selfns $win $instance"
> >     (procedure "::snit::RT.DestroyObject" line 16)
> >     invoked from within
> > "::snit::RT.DestroyObject ::assistant ::assistant::Snit_inst3 .assistant2"
> >     (command bound to event)
> > 
> > back on the last screen :
> > invalid command name "procToCall"
> >     while executing
> > "procToCall .assistant2 .assistant2.bodyf.contentf"
> >     ("eval" body line 1)
> >     invoked from within
> > "eval procToCall $self $contentf"
> >     (procedure "::assistant::Snit_destructor" line 20)
> >     invoked from within
> > "${type}::Snit_destructor $type $selfns $win $instance"
> >     (procedure "::snit::RT.DestroyObject" line 16)
> >     invoked from within
> > "::snit::RT.DestroyObject ::assistant ::assistant::Snit_inst3 .assistant2"
> >     (command bound to event)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, Feb 12, 2007 at 01:00:08PM +0200, Vivia Nikolaidou wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hey. I just tested your assistant :)
> > > 
> > > 1) On the webcam, I got no image at all. It did recognize my webcam but 
> > >    the image was black. At the next step, where I was supposed to 
> > > finetune 
> > >    the settings, there were no sliders at all... :(
> > > 
> > > 2) The test sound played OK, but then (about the mic) I could see no 
> > >    "record" button! There was a "play" button, but it doesn't seem to 
> > > have 
> > >    recorded anything... So either it doesn't work with my microphone, or 
> > >    you should add a "record" button there :)
> > > 
> > > 3) The numbering seems wrong (step X of Y)
> > > 
> > > 4) I tried to close the assistant before it was finished and I got this 
> > >    bug:
> > > 
> > > invalid command name "procToCall"
> > >     while executing
> > > "procToCall .assistant2 .assistant2.bodyf.contentf"
> > >     ("eval" body line 1)
> > >     invoked from within
> > > "eval procToCall $self $contentf"
> > >     (procedure "::assistant::Snit_destructor" line 20)
> > >     invoked from within
> > > "${type}::Snit_destructor $type $selfns $win $instance"
> > >     (procedure "::snit::RT.DestroyObject" line 16)
> > > 
> > > 5) Suggestion: It would be nice to have the webcam preview at the same 
> > >    place on both steps :)
> > > 
> > > Apart from this, NICE work! :)
> > > 
> > > Vivia
> > > 
> > > On Sun, 11 Feb 2007, Boris Faure (aka billiob) wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > Revision: 7959
> > > > >           http://svn.sourceforge.net/amsn/?rev=7959&view=rev
> > > > > Author:   billiob
> > > > > Date:     2007-02-11 12:41:41 -0800 (Sun, 11 Feb 2007)
> > > > >
> > > > > Log Message:
> > > > > -----------
> > > > > add 2 pixmaps to default skin: recordbut and recordbuth
> > > > > the assistant is nearly finished, but there's still 51 TODOs :D
> > > > 
> > > > I'm commiting my assistant.
> > > > Ok, there's still a lot of TODOs, but most of them are very simple
> > > > like translations or adding a skin key.
> > > > 
> > > > I haven't tested the Webcam part, so it is buggy.
> > > > About the audio part, i've got issues with combobox that don't display
> > > > the current state of the variables. And the volume is not working.
> > > > 
> > > > To a graphic designer,
> > > > i need an audio pixmap, and a "wizard" pixmap.
> > > > 
> > > > In order to test:
> > > > source assistant.tcl
> > > > 
> > > > Greets
> > > > -- 
> > > > Boris FAURE (aka billiob)
> > > > mail, msn : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > No trees were killed in the sending of this message.
> > > > However, a large number of electrons were terribly
> > > > agitated.
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