Hi, Thanks Sake, About translation, it's really simple, all you have to do is : [trans translation_keyword] (for example [trans medium] and [trans small], etc..) then you open the file amsn/lang/langen (for english) and add the words in there, the keyword as the first of the line, so, for example : medium Medium small Small etc.. and that's all you have to do for adding the translation... after that, the translators will notice that there is a 'new, untranslated key' and they will send their translations, that's all you care about it. So having the need to add a new translation key is not an issue at all, the only thing, we , developers, care about is the english words that need to be in lang/langen and the [trans] call..
p.s.: sorry, I'm very busy lately, so I didn't have time to review your code changes and commit your patches, but from what I saw, it's looking good so far... once you finish, if you would be kind enough to send all the diffs in a single email so I won't have to search for them (especially since you sent many diffs..) Thanks.. KaKaRoTo On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 01:00:28AM -0400, Sake Sashimi wrote: > Hi Kakaroto, > > Thanks for your reply. For the list of TODO that you gave me at the bottom > of your email, I implemented the 3rd and 4rd, namely: > > - the change font dialog should have a 'size' column (already done afaik) > - add a "change my font" menu item in the view menu under "text size" to > allow accessibility to changing the > font from the menu, if the buttonbar is hidden > > For the first one, namely: the "view->text size" menu should show text like > "custom font/smallest/small/medium/large/largest", I checked aMSN language > translation, and we do not have translation for smallest, medium, and > largest. From experience with the 'alarm window', I believe I could not > just hard code the word right ? they must be translated? > > Here is the diff for implementation 3 and 4: > > Index: chatwindow.tcl > =================================================================== > --- chatwindow.tcl (revision 8320) > +++ chatwindow.tcl (working copy) > @@ -1414,6 +1414,9 @@ > #textstyle > $viewmenu add cascade -label "[trans textsize]" -menu > [CreateTextSizeMenu $viewmenu] > > + #changefont > + $viewmenu add command -label "[trans changefont]" -command > "after 1 change_font [string range $w 1 end] mychatfont" > + > #---------------------- > $viewmenu add separator > > > Index: gui.tcl > =================================================================== > --- gui.tcl (revision 8320) > +++ gui.tcl (working copy) > @@ -3803,7 +3803,7 @@ > return > } > > - set selected_font [SelectFont .fontsel -parent $parent -title $title > -font $initialfont -initialcolor $initialcolor -nosizes 1] > + set selected_font [SelectFont .fontsel -parent $parent -title $title > -font $initialfont -initialcolor $initialcolor] > return $selected_font > } > > @@ -3833,6 +3833,7 @@ > } > > set sel_fontfamily [lindex $selfont 0] > + set sel_fontsize [lindex $selfont 1] > set sel_fontstyle [lrange $selfont 2 end] > > > @@ -3844,7 +3845,7 @@ > > ::config::setKey $key [list $sel_fontfamily $sel_fontstyle > $selcolor] > > - change_myfontsize [::config::getKey textsize] > + change_myfontsize [expr {$sel_fontsize - $basesize} ] > } > > Please let me know if anything :) > > Thanks, > Sakesashimi > > > > > On 3/21/07, Youness Alaoui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >Hi sake, > >I think your suggestion is good.. adding the size column and keeping the > >view->text size in the menu, but change > >its content from +1, +2, 0, -1, -2 into something more intuitive like > >"small, smallest, medium, large, largest" > >and have them as checkboxes so users can see which one is currently > >selected... maybe adding a 'custom' that > >owuld open the change font dialog... I would also appreciate seeing a > >'change my font' menu item added... > >you don't have to apologize, but I'm sorry for giving you so much hassle, > >it should have been a simple fix but > >now it gets discussed and a lot of back and forth which is probably both > >our strength (since we discuss things > >to make them as good as possible) but also our weakness (we loose time and > >a developer could loose motivation or > >not have time anymore to implement the discussed feature). I think it's a > >good leson for you : specs should be > >highly defined before any implementation occurs ;) > >Anyways, the way you should do it is that whenever you send an email and > >wait for an answer, you should put the > >issue 'on hold' and work on something else, it will require you to work on > >many things in parallel, but this way > >you won't waste time waiting on others' input.. and you're lucky this > >time, you were able to get answers, > >sometimes a mail in the ML could remain unanswered for weeks :p > >good luck and keep me informed! > >once you get a final diff implemented the things mentionned above, send it > >to us please... > > > >summary TODO : > >- the "view->text size" menu should show text like "custom > >font/smallest/small/medium/large/largest" > >- the "view->text size" items should become checkboxes so users can see > >the current size they chose (only if > >time permits) > >- the change font dialog should have a 'size' column (already done afaik) > >- add a "change my font" menu item in the view menu under "text size" to > >allow accessibility to changing the > >font from the menu, if the buttonbar is hidden > > > > > >Thanks, > >KaKaRoTo > > > >On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 01:33:37PM -0800, Sake Sashimi wrote: > >> Hi Kakaroto and everyone, > >> > >> Thanks for the answer. In my opinion, we should leave the menu > >> (view->text size) as is. And then add the size column in the 'change > >font' > >> window that pop up when you click the 'A' button on the button > >bar. This > >> way is more intuitive, and perfectly portraying the original request on > >the > >> bulletin board concerning this feature. It retains the UI of original > >msn > >> plus further enhancement on aMSN. Furthermore, we know that the reason > >that > >> -nosizes was there before is not because the size column is causing any > >bug. > >> > >> > >> Attached is the screenshot of the implementation I was mentioning. > >> Previously, there was no 'size column' on the change font window. > >> > >> This implementation is also carried on the Preference->Personal->Change > >Font > >> button. > >> > >> If you or the community has other suggestion, please let me know. Or > >> probably consider this addition as a one a time enchancement :) I would > >> greatly appreciate if we could have immediate consensus about this, > >since I > >> am really racing againts time here :) and need to work on the other > >> feature. I am really sorry in advance if it cause you guys to rush as > >> well... please accept my sincere apology... > >> > >> Warmest regards, > >> Sakesashimi > >> > >> > >> > >> On 3/21/07, Youness Alaoui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > >> >Hi Alvaro, > >> >thanks for the answer, that's what I thought.. bad UI design from msn > >:p > >> >lool, I just checked and it still is "small/smaller/medium/big/bigger" > >> >(with 'smaller' selected by default:s) > >> >yes, it's not very good I think, so it would be better to just remove > >it.. > >> >I don't know what the UI guys think > >> >since I'm not that good with UI design.. > >> >I would suggest removing the 'change text size' from the menu and > >> >replacing it with 'change their font' and > >> >adding above it a 'change my font'.. > >> >there's no 'change my font' in the menus, so users with no buttonbar > >can't > >> >change their font.. > >> >the menu should have two new menu entries and one less.. > >> > > >> >KKRT > >> > > >> >On Wed, Mar 21, 2007 at 06:44:14PM +0100, Álvaro J. Iradier wrote: > >> >> It was added to mimic the behavior in the MSN Messenger. The text > >size > >> >> was selected from the menu, as "Big, Normal, Small, ..." and that was > >> >> +1, +0, -1, etc. from the default font. So, choosing a fixed size in > >> >> the font dialog made no sense for me. > >> >> > >> >> Anyways, the font size is not sent to the destination (did this > >> >> change?), it's just a local display setting. > >> >> > >> >> Greets. > >> >> > >> >> On 3/21/07, Youness Alaoui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> > Hi, > >> >> > thanks for the diff, I looked into the -nosizes option.. it was > >indeed > >> >added on purpose.. > >> >> > look here : > >> >> > http://amsn.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/amsn?view=rev&revision=2208 > >> >> > > >> >> > Which means that Alvaro added the option on purpose at revision > >2208, > >> >on march 14th 2204 (3 years ago)... there > >> >> > was no specific reason specified in the commit log :( > >> >> > > >> >> > Alvaro, do you know why it would have been added ? I know it's 3 > >years > >> >and it's a long time ago, but do you have > >> >> > any idea or can remember anything on why you added that option ? > >was > >> >there a specific issue caused by this ? Or > >> >> > was it just to avoid the redunduncy from the 'text size' menu of > >the > >> >chat window which was itself a legacy of > >> >> > ccmsn ? > >> >> > Thanks! > >> >> > > >> >> > KaKaRoTo > >> >> > > >> >> > On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 10:12:29PM -0400, Sake Sashimi wrote: > >> >> > > Hi Kakaroto and everyone, > >> >> > > > >> >> > > I went ahead and change the way user will choose font size from > >> >menu->text > >> >> > > size as you have suggested. So, instead of +8 +4 ... etc, user > >will > >> >now be > >> >> > > able to choose font size, ie: 4,5,6,7,8,9,10...24. I tested the > >> >change and > >> >> > > it works properly. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > I attached the diff file (font_diff.txt) as the email > >> >attachment. Sorry, it > >> >> > > is because gmail does not allow me to copy paste (really weird > >> >indeed) :( > >> >> > > > >> >> > > In font_diff.txt, the first diff on chatwindow.tcl is the new > >> >implementation > >> >> > > on menu->text size that you suggested me to do. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > The second diff on gui.tcl is the previous implementation I did > >on > >> >adding > >> >> > > size column. They are separate. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Thanks a lot. I look forward to hearing your feedback :) > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Regards, > >> >> > > Sakesashimi > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > On 3/20/07, Sake Sashimi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > >Hi Kakaroto, > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > >Thanks for your reply. I was previously thinking that the size > >> >column was > >> >> > > >not there because amsn already has the menu entry to increase or > >> >decrease > >> >> > > >the text size. Therefore, with this in mind, the person who > >> >> > > >implemented the Change Font window purposedly left out the size > >> >column > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > >From what I understood from the forum thread, the one requesting > >> >the > >> >> > > >feature was asking if amsn could have a window with all three > >> >options (to > >> >> > > >change font name, size and style) similar to the window on > >> >> > > >Preference->Appearance->Change Font on the chat window and on > >> >> > > >Preference->Personal->Change Fonts buttons. Right now, if user > >> >click the > >> >> > > >'A' button on chat windows, a new windows showing what was > >> >requested > >> >> > > >appears > >> >> > > >and user will be able to change all three parameters from that > >one > >> >window. > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > >"maybe the whole 'text size' menu could be removed and just add > >a > >> >single > >> >> > > >menu entry to change the font > >> >> > > >of how you see user's text, so they get it all in one window > >(the > >> >same > >> >> > > >button is in the prefs window)" > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > >From your quote above, I think the current code i submitted > >> >implemented > >> >> > > >that. However, you might probably be right if the person who > >first > >> >> > > >implemented this window purposedly left out the size column > >because > >> >of > >> >> > > >something. Therefore, I will wait for more information from you > >:) > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > >Meanwhile, I'll do as you suggested, modifying the menu entry to > >> >show font > >> >> > > >sizes instead of just +1 +2 ... etc... Thanks... > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > >Regards, > >> >> > > >sakesashimi > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > >On 3/20/07, Youness Alaoui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >wrote: > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> Hi Sake, > >> >> > > >> Like vivia said, the best way to send a patch is to save your > >> >work, do a > >> >> > > >> 'svn update', then 'svn diff', and send > >> >> > > >> us the diff result... > >> >> > > >> Now, I'm sorry but I don't understand what you did... with > >this > >> >fix... > >> >> > > >> it has nothing to do with what was > >> >> > > >> asked... Maybe you forgot to send the diff for the > >> >chatwindow.tclfile > >> >> > > >> or something.. or maybe you > >> >> > > >> misunderstood.. > >> >> > > >> humm.. ok, I just reread the forum thread and you're right, > >I'm > >> >the one > >> >> > > >> who misunderstood.. I was actually > >> >> > > >> refering to the line in the post that says : > >> >> > > >> "The menu view->text size, isn't user friendly" > >> >> > > >> referring to the menu of the chatwindow, wich is why I told > >you > >> >to look > >> >> > > >> at the CreateTextSizeMenu in > >> >> > > >> chatwindow.tcl... > >> >> > > >> Now I understand your diff a bit better.. but I' masking > >myself, > >> >why the > >> >> > > >> -nosizes 1 was put there in the first > >> >> > > >> place ? that's what you should ask yourself.. see who added it > >> >and when > >> >> > > >> and for what reason, maybe the sizes > >> >> > > >> column caused a bug or something.. I'll try to find that > >answer > >> >for you, > >> >> > > >> in the meantime, you could try changing > >> >> > > >> the chat window's menus so it could be more user friendly (now > >> >it's +1, > >> >> > > >> +2, etc.. maybe font sizes would be > >> >> > > >> better).. maybe the whole 'text size' menu could be removed > >and > >> >just add > >> >> > > >> a single menu entry to change the font > >> >> > > >> of how you see user's text, so they get it all in one window > >(the > >> >same > >> >> > > >> button is in the prefs window) > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> KaKaRoTo > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> On Tue, Mar 20, 2007 at 02:20:32AM -0400, Sake Sashimi wrote: > >> >> > > >> > Hi Kakaroto, > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > I manage to finish the first TODO (better usable menu > >options > >> >for > >> >> > > >> changing > >> >> > > >> > text size) > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > http://www.amsn-project.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2827 - > >> >better > >> >> > > >> usable menu > >> >> > > >> > options for the change text size... > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > Basically, I modified gui.tcl file within choose_font and > >> >change_font > >> >> > > >> > procs. Right now, if user click the 'change font' button in > >> >the chat > >> >> > > >> > window, and also the two 'change buttons' in > >> >Preference->Appearance, a > >> >> > > >> > change font window with additional font size list column > >will > >> >> > > >> appear. User > >> >> > > >> > can change text size by selecting the size number on the > >> >list. The > >> >> > > >> change > >> >> > > >> > will be persistent. > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > I have tested it thoroughly, and it works consistently. The > >> >only > >> >> > > >> thing is > >> >> > > >> > that, if you ever notice, some fonts have a range sizes in > >> >which if > >> >> > > >> you > >> >> > > >> > change the size within that range, the size of the font does > >> >not > >> >> > > >> change (for > >> >> > > >> > example: for font 'times', size between 19 to 22 does not > >> >actually > >> >> > > >> change > >> >> > > >> > the size of the font, ie: size 19 to 22 is the same size for > >> >font > >> >> > > >> 'times'). > >> >> > > >> > I am sure this is not amsn issue. it probably tcl issue. > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > I am not too familiar about the process of submitting the > >> >code. I > >> >> > > >> attached > >> >> > > >> > the file that I modified in this email. I hope my change is > >> >> > > >> acceptable :) > >> >> > > >> > Please let me know if there is a specific way to send fixes. > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > Thank you, > >> >> > > >> > sakesashimi > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > >> > >>------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> > > >> > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. 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