On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Dennis Nichols wrote:

> Greetings - First, my understanding of ROBOTINCLUDE and ROBOTEXCLUDE is 
> that these are report-level commands, that is, they affect only the 
> Operating System Report. Right?
> 

Right. At the moment.

> A previous exchange on this list...
> 
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Stephen Turner wrote:
>  > On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, Aaron Shoblaske wrote:
>  >> In the 4.90beta, is there any way in one line to exclude from the entire
>  >> report all robots that you've defined using robotinclude (eg. ROBOT none)
>  >> or do you still have to type in a bunch of seperate BROWEXCLUDEs for each
>  >> robot (eg. BROWEXCLUDE inktomi*, etc.)? And if there isn't would it be
>  >> hard to implement it in the beta?
> 
>  > There isn't. It's a good idea though. I'll do it. Probably.
> 
> The above is a good step but something about it seems odd - one says which 
> browsers to include in the Operating System Report as being robots, and 
> then one says exclude all such items from the entire report.
> 

Well, I guess the point is that Aaron's suggestion would break the idea of
ROBOT*CLUDE being a report-level command. So then it wouldn't really be
contradictory.

> How about this instead/in addition:
> 
> For a selected set of commands, invent a syntax extension that says read 
> the arguments for this command from a file. I could then, for example, put 
> a list of robotish browsers in a file and use any of the following:
> 
> ROBOTINCLUDE -FILE filename
> ROBOTEXCLUDE -FILE filename
> BROWEXCLUDE -FILE filename
> BROWINCLUDE -FILE filename
> 
> This differs from CONFIGFILE because only the arguments would be in the 
> file, not the commands. This could be generalized to many other commands 
> but it is only really useful where you want to use the same list of 
> arguments for different commands. I think only the item include/exclude 
> commands would get used this way.
> 
> Does this make sense?
> 

Yes, it makes sense. I'm not sure whether I like it as an idea though. It's
concise, but it possibly seems like too much of a "power user" option, in
that makes it harder to look in one place and figure out what's going on.

Does anyone else have an opinion on this?

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