Absolutely!

I'll second Chuck's desire. I've been working hard to wean my agency staff
of the notion that "requests" tells them much more than how busy visitors to
the site are. I've been focusing my effort trying to get a better
understanding as to whether we're doing a more/better job of reaching our
constituency -while- increasing the number of items available on our web
site AND the frequency with which all of those items are being accessed. It
is all nothing more complex than knowing whether we are attracting a wider
audience and what the audience is looking at.

Sure, I know that the numbers lie and the only way to get "real" numbers is
to build more into our site but I think Chuck is simply asking if it is
possible to get a frequency listing of IP addresses by a specified time
period. I don't believe that this is built into Analog (and I l-o-v-e Analog
because it beats the heck out of WebTrends) but maybe folks on this list
have ideas for other means to generate the frequency of IP addresses by
period that Chuck and I desire. 

I'd buy SAS and crunch the data though there but maybe somebody has another
suggestion????

Thanks Much!!

Matthew Berigan, Records Management Supervisor
Office of the Commissioner of Insurance
Phone: (608) 266-0110
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
oci.wi.gov


-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Schick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 9:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [analog-help] Distinct hosts served.


At the risk of repeating myself, I understand this - please note I stated
"This would give you an idea of visitors per week."  I did not say it would
give you a quantitative value.  Three years ago when I asked the question of
determining the number of visitors to a site - Stephen Turner answered me
that distinct hosts servered was the closest approximation to this number
and pointed out the same or similar article about the inaccuracies
associated with giving a quantitative number on that statistic.  At the same
time analog reports all sorts of other numbers (page requests, requests,
etc.) which are subject to some of the same inaccuracies - it seems to me
that analog cannot measure the number of requests which came out of a
caching server.

The reality is that people want statistics for their sites because they want
an idea of the traffic their site is creating.  The best I can do is inform
and educate people of the qualitative nature of the statistics.  At the same
time it is a metric that people are using - rightly or wrongly.  I have some
clients that are selling advertising on their sites and the statistics are a
metric for supporting the rates.  My request was simply this - Analog will
give distinct hosts served on the summary report and I believe it would be a
useful feature if that could be broken out on a time report basis.

I receive a lot of pressure from clients to switch to using programs like
Urchin, Webtrends or Livestats because it tells them what they want to hear,
I mention that because these are the issues that I have to address.  I think
that Analog and Report Magic are great products and even more phenomenal is
that they are free.

Chuck Schick
Warp 8, Inc.
303-421-5140
www.warp8.com


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeremy Wadsack
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 6:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [analog-help] Distinct hosts served.



Chuck Schick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thursday, July 11, 2002 4:31 PM):

> I realize that.  But I can get number of requests listed by week in a
weekly
> report, ditto for other values like bytes transferred, page requests, etc.
> I think it would be useful to have distinct hosts served listed by week.
> This would give you an idea of visitors per week.  Which is one of the
most
> requested numbers that people want.

http://www.analog.cx/docs/faq.html#faq128

--

Jeremy Wadsack
Wadsack-Allen Digital Group

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