[1] I wasn't saying anything about visit counting. B.25 (at least when I follow that link) is the questions about cross-reference reports, "Can I find out the number of hosts visiting on each day?"
[2] Analog does not include a Hosts column in any report, because hosts is a HUGE database. To count the number of unique hosts you need to remember them all for each period you are counting. This would greatly increase the amount of memory and processing that Analog has to do and slow it down. [3] I don't disagree that there are other valuable quantities that can be gleaned from web site logs. I am just pointing you to documentation to explain why Stephen has chosen to do one thing or another. In fact, in response to that FAQ, Stephen even says, "Granted, these would be useful." -- Jeremy Wadsack Wadsack-Allen Digital Group Chuck Schick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]; Friday, July 12, 2002 8:37 AM): > Duke: > We are running reports that are cumulative - they go back in time for up to > three years. One of the outputs is a weekly report. What I am looking for > is a column in the weekly, monthly, daily report for distinct hosts served. > Go to this link and click on Monthly report. > http://www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/webstats/reportmagic/ > The columns that Stephen is showing are - Number of Requests, Number of > Page Request, and Number of bytes transferred. I would like an option of > adding a column that would give the number of Distinct hosts served by week. > We are trying to automate Analog/Report magic for hundreds of sites. The > user (our clients) does not really select a time period - they just log into > their site stats and look at their up to date stats. Our clients expect us > to provide the info to them. > I will look at a host report - but I do not think that we want that. > Chuck Schick > Warp 8, Inc. > 303-421-5140 > www.warp8.com > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Duke Hillard > Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 9:03 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [analog-help] Distinct hosts served. > I've not seen the other products that you mention > and I don't know if I understand what you mean > when you say time report basis. Analog creates > a Host Report that lists unique hosts one-by-one > for the time period established by the user. How > does that report differ from that which you seek? > -- Duke Hillard > Chuck Schick wrote: >>At the risk of repeating myself, I understand this - please note I stated >>"This would give you an idea of visitors per week." I did not say it would >>give you a quantitative value. Three years ago when I asked the question > of >>determining the number of visitors to a site - Stephen Turner answered me >>that distinct hosts servered was the closest approximation to this number >>and pointed out the same or similar article about the inaccuracies >>associated with giving a quantitative number on that statistic. At the > same >>time analog reports all sorts of other numbers (page requests, requests, >>etc.) which are subject to some of the same inaccuracies - it seems to me >>that analog cannot measure the number of requests which came out of a >>caching server. >> >>The reality is that people want statistics for their sites because they > want >>an idea of the traffic their site is creating. The best I can do is inform >>and educate people of the qualitative nature of the statistics. At the > same >>time it is a metric that people are using - rightly or wrongly. I have > some >>clients that are selling advertising on their sites and the statistics are > a >>metric for supporting the rates. My request was simply this - Analog will >>give distinct hosts served on the summary report and I believe it would be > a >>useful feature if that could be broken out on a time report basis. >> >>I receive a lot of pressure from clients to switch to using programs like >>Urchin, Webtrends or Livestats because it tells them what they want to > hear, >>I mention that because these are the issues that I have to address. I > think >>that Analog and Report Magic are great products and even more phenomenal is >>that they are free. >> >>Chuck Schick >>Warp 8, Inc. >>303-421-5140 >>www.warp8.com >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeremy Wadsack >>Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 6:17 PM >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: Re: [analog-help] Distinct hosts served. >> >> >> >>Chuck Schick ([EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thursday, July 11, 2002 4:31 PM): >> >>>I realize that. But I can get number of requests listed by week in a >>> >>weekly >> >>>report, ditto for other values like bytes transferred, page requests, etc. >>>I think it would be useful to have distinct hosts served listed by week. >>>This would give you an idea of visitors per week. Which is one of the >>> >>most >> >>>requested numbers that people want. >>> >> >>http://www.analog.cx/docs/faq.html#faq128 >> >>-- >> >>Jeremy Wadsack >>Wadsack-Allen Digital Group +------------------------------------------------------------------------ | This is the analog-help mailing list. To unsubscribe from this | mailing list, go to | http://lists.isite.net/listgate/analog-help/unsubscribe.html | | List archives are available at | http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ | http://lists.isite.net/listgate/analog-help/archives/ | http://www.tallylist.com/archives/index.cfm/mlist.7 +------------------------------------------------------------------------
