Paul, I happen to agree that the way content changes is one of the most
fascinating things that we have.  My work with the Analytics team won't be
done until we have a nice way to do this kind of research.  Right now,
people can use the historical dumps but that's very unfriendly.

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Paul J. Weiss <[email protected]> wrote:

> For my particular interests, I am fine with that. But I think historians
> would disagree. A lot can be learned from documented ideas that didn't come
> to fruition.
>
> Paul
>
> At 2015-10-15  11:08 am, you wrote:
>
> Hi,Â
>
> You are all correct on archiving old pages that might be of research
> interest. We are all for that. The pages we hope to delete are about
> systems that never existed but were just talked about, and the idea was
> replaced by something else that exists now. It doesn't make sense for us to
> have those pages. Anything that is about something has been worked on, and
> is not active any more will be archived.
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Paul J. Weiss <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> I am definitely on the side of archiving rather than deleting. Some of my
> research interests involve looking at past documentation. Retrieving
> outdated documentation is okay, as long as it is clear immediately that it
> is indeed outdated. We can also enable searching from within WMF webspace
> to exclude outdated documentation. There are many ways to accomplish these
> goals: adding "Archived" to the title, making a new namespace, using
> categories, etc.
>
> Paul
>
> Paul J. Weiss
> PhD student, Information science
> University of Washington
>
> At 2015-10-15Â  10:48 am, you wrote:
>
> >I've always thought that blanking the page and replacing it with a
> template which says it's historical and links to the historical version
> of the page would be a good solution that balances preserving history with
> deemphasizing outdated information.
>
> This would make info show up in searches still, which we definitely do not
> want. Seems that deleting is a better option.
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Neil P. Quinn <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> I've always thought that blanking the page and replacing it with a
> template which says it's historical and links to the historical version of
> the page would be a good solution that balances preserving history with
> deemphasizing outdated information.
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Dan Andreescu <[email protected]
> > wrote: > We have a documentation cleanup day coming up soon, and we've
> just got > delete permissions so we can actually clean.
> Please don't delete old content, mark it as {{historical}} or {{outdated}}
> and archive it instead.
>
>
> I'm all for following the norm here, but wouldn't that mean it still shows
> up in searches?  That's what I'm trying to avoid, minimizing the
> confusion.Â
>
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