BermudaLamb wrote:
> one of the largest communities of non-Java
> developers is probably the Visual Studio developers.

As you say non-Java - but Andoid development is Java (with the option
of excursions to native C/C++) so starting with Visual Studio is like
taking a spade to drill a hole.  More than templates would be needed a
complete VS-plugin would be required (this would also rule out VS
Express users).

As a long time VS user (back to the days of 1.4 and 16bit Windows) I
have had no trouble picking up Eclipse and the getting start
instructions worked 1st time for me.  However I might switch to Ant
(XML based make equivalent) as I have not yet found a way to automate
the checkout, build, release cycle in Eclipse for larger multi-project
applications.

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RichardC

On Oct 27, 2:51 pm, BermudaLamb <[email protected]> wrote:
> I spend my entire day in Visual Studio 2005 and 2008.  I want to
> develop Android applications as well.  I have taken a look at
> Eclipse.  I am Windows, not Mac, and not Linux.
>
> With that said ... Eclipse is not Visual Studio.  They may both be
> IDEs but they are so different.  I am looking for a step-by-step guide
> to gearing my Visual Studio environment for Android development.  I
> know that thishttp://developer.android.com/guide/developing/other-ide.html
> talks about other IDEs.
>
> Lets be honest though, one of the largest communities of non-Java
> developers is probably the Visual Studio developers.  Why not just
> recognize that and provide the necessary templates and steps to
> embrace this group, and kick the android market place into high gear.
> Anything is better that the i... world.
>
> Most of you may not remember, or even know the 70s and 80s.  But
> Microsoft did it when they released Basic on the first PCs, and
> Borland did it again in the 80s when thye came out with the 29.95
> Turbo Pascal.  This is akin to the same thought ... Sure I can
> restructure my thinking, and learn yet another way to develop my
> applications, but in this day and age why should I.  Since the the
> advent of the first GUI operating system I have been avidly waiting
> the developers panacea of point, click, drag and drop aplication
> development.  We are not there yet, but everytime someone comes out
> with yet another IDE we seem to all sigh in relief while taking two
> steps backward in productivity.
>
> So, please, please, please ... provide a step by step visual guide
> (with templates) for Android Development in Visual Studio.  Including,
> if necessary, steps for downloading and installing the various
> supporting stuff.  I admit I'm spoiled by the VS development
> environment.  I click on one EXE installation, answer a few simple
> questions, and in a few minutes my entire development environment is
> ready for me.  I don't have to download this, then download that, and
> don't forget to get some of those, and a few of these.
>
> It is like the bad old days of Linux, when it would weeks to get the
> environment set up just right.  However, don't breath on it because
> then Linux might think you installed something new and you would have
> to start all over again.
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