> [...]  This is akin to the same thought ... Sure I can
> restructure my thinking, and learn yet another way to develop my
> applications, but in this day and age why should I.

Because you are a human being. You are inquisitive, and evolve
intellectually and physically due to the experiences that you
encounter in day-to-day life.

I must say this is the first IDE rant that I've read that bothered to
recall all the way back to the 70's :) You haven't won me over I'm
afraid, I'm not a big fan of Eclipse either, but I definitely don't
think VS is any better. Intellisense is by far one of the most
temperamental features I've ever seen in an IDE (from a C++ dev
perspective), and configuration menus are atrocious - so many grid
views! Anyway, I digress.

You can develop in VS if you want, ultimately it is just a glorified
text editor anyway. If you have any specific problems setting up your
development environment then I'm sure many on this list will be happy
to help you.

But please, please, don't come asking to be spoon fed with
presentation slides and tutorial guides for your favourite IDE, most
people (in particular the core devs) are far too busy to trawl through
such tasks. You are a programmer (I assume), and as such it should be
in your nature to problem solve. If you decide to write up a tutorial
on Android development in Visual Studio, it will be well received
here, I'm sure there are others out there who share your frustration.

Sean


On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:51 PM, BermudaLamb <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I spend my entire day in Visual Studio 2005 and 2008.  I want to
> develop Android applications as well.  I have taken a look at
> Eclipse.  I am Windows, not Mac, and not Linux.
>
> With that said ... Eclipse is not Visual Studio.  They may both be
> IDEs but they are so different.  I am looking for a step-by-step guide
> to gearing my Visual Studio environment for Android development.  I
> know that this http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/other-ide.html
> talks about other IDEs.
>
> Lets be honest though, one of the largest communities of non-Java
> developers is probably the Visual Studio developers.  Why not just
> recognize that and provide the necessary templates and steps to
> embrace this group, and kick the android market place into high gear.
> Anything is better that the i... world.
>
> Most of you may not remember, or even know the 70s and 80s.  But
> Microsoft did it when they released Basic on the first PCs, and
> Borland did it again in the 80s when thye came out with the 29.95
> Turbo Pascal.  This is akin to the same thought ... Sure I can
> restructure my thinking, and learn yet another way to develop my
> applications, but in this day and age why should I.  Since the the
> advent of the first GUI operating system I have been avidly waiting
> the developers panacea of point, click, drag and drop aplication
> development.  We are not there yet, but everytime someone comes out
> with yet another IDE we seem to all sigh in relief while taking two
> steps backward in productivity.
>
> So, please, please, please ... provide a step by step visual guide
> (with templates) for Android Development in Visual Studio.  Including,
> if necessary, steps for downloading and installing the various
> supporting stuff.  I admit I'm spoiled by the VS development
> environment.  I click on one EXE installation, answer a few simple
> questions, and in a few minutes my entire development environment is
> ready for me.  I don't have to download this, then download that, and
> don't forget to get some of those, and a few of these.
>
> It is like the bad old days of Linux, when it would weeks to get the
> environment set up just right.  However, don't breath on it because
> then Linux might think you installed something new and you would have
> to start all over again.
>
> >
>

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