Well, I'm kind of tired of going back and forth on this, and I've
started auto-archiving these messages just to avoid them, but like a
crack addict, I'm back on it.  Some points below.

On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  As far as competitions go, I think this one is being pretty
>  efficiently and impartially run.  This is hardly a black box, and we
>  all are getting a fair shake.  A few points:

First off, it is a black box, at this point.  Again.  That is the issue.

>  1) How many contests even have a server side to let you know when your
>  app was looked at?

You do understand its our server side, not Google's, and those who
didn't have a server component have no idea what's happening, right?

>  2) How many contests have 4 judges per entry, which are then analyzed
>  for outliers?

That's part of the point.  We see like 1 or 2 hits, even though we're
supposed to have 4 judges.  As per somebody elses point, part of the
rules state that the judge doesn't have to open the app if they don't
like the docs, but I think that starts to get to the root of the issue
that a lot of us have.

>  3) If your application only was looked at for 2 minutes, that is your
>  problem.  This is a beauty contest and you need to provide a hook
>  within 30 seconds.  It's like American Idol

Again.  2 minutes, OK.  The issue is with 0 minutes.

>  4) You have a 3% chance of winning at least $25K - those are pretty
>  damn good odds relatively speaking

Yeah, if you filed out a form and were randomly selected for 25k.
Those are damn good odds.  You're reaching here.  For a lot of these
apps, the time in could have pulled 25k in consulting fees.
Certainly, if you figure 3% of that, or $750, the idea that you'd put
this time in for the money is ridiculous.

>  5) We all had the option to upload documentation.  If you didn't get
>  them interested with with the Read Me, they don't owe you any minimum
>  amount of time

This isn't American Idol.  I think this should have been a little more
clear.  "If you don't excite us with your readme, you're out!".
Something like that, right?

>  6) Prior to the submission date Dan was answering tons of questions.
>  There were many threads discussing what people thought judges would
>  look for and how to hit the right buttons

This I ding myself on.  Should have been on the forums more before the
submission.  However, the implication that you'd learn critical
knowledge a few days before the deadline from one dude on a forum
seems to directly contradict "I think this one is being pretty
efficiently and impartially run".

I'm out.  The summary, as always.  For Google and Co, look at the
apps, even if you're not into the docs.  The take away for those who
would try for round 2.  Better docs.  And, you know, better ideas
maybe ;)

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