> This I ding myself on.  Should have been on the forums more before the
> submission.  However, the implication that you'd learn critical
> knowledge a few days before the deadline from one dude on a forum
> seems to directly contradict "I think this one is being pretty
> efficiently and impartially run".

On the welcome page of Android there is actually a step that says that
you should check the forums regularly to stay up to date.

On May 3, 1:39 pm, "Kevin Galligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, I'm kind of tired of going back and forth on this, and I've
> started auto-archiving these messages just to avoid them, but like a
> crack addict, I'm back on it.  Some points below.
>
> On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >  As far as competitions go, I think this one is being pretty
> >  efficiently and impartially run.  This is hardly a black box, and we
> >  all are getting a fair shake.  A few points:
>
> First off, it is a black box, at this point.  Again.  That is the issue.
>
> >  1) How many contests even have a server side to let you know when your
> >  app was looked at?
>
> You do understand its our server side, not Google's, and those who
> didn't have a server component have no idea what's happening, right?
>
> >  2) How many contests have 4 judges per entry, which are then analyzed
> >  for outliers?
>
> That's part of the point.  We see like 1 or 2 hits, even though we're
> supposed to have 4 judges.  As per somebody elses point, part of the
> rules state that the judge doesn't have to open the app if they don't
> like the docs, but I think that starts to get to the root of the issue
> that a lot of us have.
>
> >  3) If your application only was looked at for 2 minutes, that is your
> >  problem.  This is a beauty contest and you need to provide a hook
> >  within 30 seconds.  It's like American Idol
>
> Again.  2 minutes, OK.  The issue is with 0 minutes.
>
> >  4) You have a 3% chance of winning at least $25K - those are pretty
> >  damn good odds relatively speaking
>
> Yeah, if you filed out a form and were randomly selected for 25k.
> Those are damn good odds.  You're reaching here.  For a lot of these
> apps, the time in could have pulled 25k in consulting fees.
> Certainly, if you figure 3% of that, or $750, the idea that you'd put
> this time in for the money is ridiculous.
>
> >  5) We all had the option to upload documentation.  If you didn't get
> >  them interested with with the Read Me, they don't owe you any minimum
> >  amount of time
>
> This isn't American Idol.  I think this should have been a little more
> clear.  "If you don't excite us with your readme, you're out!".
> Something like that, right?
>
> >  6) Prior to the submission date Dan was answering tons of questions.
> >  There were many threads discussing what people thought judges would
> >  look for and how to hit the right buttons
>
> This I ding myself on.  Should have been on the forums more before the
> submission.  However, the implication that you'd learn critical
> knowledge a few days before the deadline from one dude on a forum
> seems to directly contradict "I think this one is being pretty
> efficiently and impartially run".
>
> I'm out.  The summary, as always.  For Google and Co, look at the
> apps, even if you're not into the docs.  The take away for those who
> would try for round 2.  Better docs.  And, you know, better ideas
> maybe ;)
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