"Excel took 50 staff years to produce 649,000 lines of code"

Wow, I just realized that the original Excel is bloat software from
Hell, and it made tons of money.

Oh well.  At least it didn't take as long as Lotus 123 to develop.

On May 11, 4:23 pm, tberthel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oh yea.  Would u put your software up against Lotus 123? I think not.
> I could put mine up against Lotus 123 with confidence.
>
> Do I have even a one trillionth of the investment from others that you
> or Lotus have? No, but you do.
>
> On May 11, 4:18 pm, tberthel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Chris for a winner your really an idiot.  I would not say anything
> > else before they reject your submission.
>
> >http://forums.construx.com/blogs/stevemcc/archive/2008/03/27/producti...
>
> > "Excel took 50 staff years to produce 649,000 lines of code. Lotus 123
> > took 260 staff years to produce 400,000 lines of code."
>
> > More importantly Lotus did have a billion dollars of investment and
> > did sell plenty of copies.   So it exceeded its value long ago.
>
> > Not that any specific project matters because the point is that good
> > software does not sell sometimes.  Just look as OS/2 Warp and BEOS.
>
> > You can try to create bloat software like Lotus was or try to fake
> > value purposely, but I haven't.  Also, OS/2 Warp and BEOS had some
> > serious investment just not enough.
>
> > On May 11, 2:09 pm, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > So if I take the 1983 version of Lotus 123, and it has 1mm lines of
> > > code, it is worth $1 billion?
>
> > > Quantity is irrelevant. I can't tell if this is a serious thread or
> > > not.
>
> > > On May 11, 11:48 am, tberthel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > One tool gives a negative value to duplicate code.  So for each
> > > > duplicate line you lose like .02 cents.
>
> > > > On May 11, 1:32 pm, q2dm1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Nonono you have to evaluate the generated file! This one costs $3.
>
> > > > > On May 11, 8:00 pm, tberthel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Actually one tool gives that a negative value.
>
> > > > > > On May 11, 12:40 pm, q2dm1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > printf("int i = 0;");
>
> > > > > > > for(int i = 0; i < 1000000; i++)
> > > > > > >     printf("i++;");
>
> > > > > > > There - 1 million LOC :) I'd even sell that for $1 million - a 
> > > > > > > line
> > > > > > > for a dollar! Invest while you can!
>
> > > > > > > On May 11, 7:36 pm, tberthel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > It's one of those things you don't put a price tag on.
>
> > > > > > > > Sloccount is just a code counting tool.  Other metrics programs 
> > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > give the same type of info.
>
> > > > > > > > Example, Red Hat code base has > 1 Billion dollars in Sloccount 
> > > > > > > > value,
> > > > > > > > and they have > than a billion dollars.  Does that mean they 
> > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > sell for a billion?  I don't know.  It would be up to 
> > > > > > > > negotiation, and
> > > > > > > > how they feel that day.
>
> > > > > > > > On May 11, 12:30 pm, Braden Napier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > wait - r u actually trying to sell your code for $10 million?
>
> > > > > > > > > On May 11, 12:25 pm, tberthel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > and wrote by myself.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On May 11, 12:22 pm, tberthel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > This only includes closed source work that I own.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On May 11, 12:09 pm, tberthel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > I would like investment for the following:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > - Game Development Kit >60K Lines of Code
> > > > > > > > > > > > - 2 Complete Games and 2 prototype mobile games >20K 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Lines of Code
> > > > > > > > > > > > - 1 PC Game Mortification DirectX >30K Lines Of Code
> > > > > > > > > > > > - InputAutomationTool >60K Lines of Code
> > > > > > > > > > > > - Various Graphics and Utility programs >50K Lines of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Code
> > > > > > > > > > > > - FreeBlisket/WeBlisket E-Commerce Solution >100K Lines 
> > > > > > > > > > > > of Code &
> > > > > > > > > > > > another 100K in XML/XSL and such for various website 
> > > > > > > > > > > > templates
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sloccount puts it all together at over 10 Million USD 
> > > > > > > > > > > > not including
> > > > > > > > > > > > third party code.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Invest while you still can. LOL
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > My next main Library will be for robots.  The last 2 
> > > > > > > > > > > > libraries I
> > > > > > > > > > > > create will be for resource finding and replication.  
> > > > > > > > > > > > You won't be
> > > > > > > > > > > > allowed to invest in them.  They will invest in you.- 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hide quoted text -
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