Having written 13 software patents, I'm well aware that many are very weak, or, if not weak, very narrow. But proving all that in a court of law is the trick -- the "presumption" is that the patent, having been cleared by the patent office, is valid. (I'd have several more patents if it weren't for the ones the PO rejected because of supposed "prior art", even though the quoted "prior art" had no relation to the area of my applications.)
On Aug 15, 8:03 pm, Indicator Veritatis <[email protected]> wrote: > But that is exactly why it is so much in Google's interest to attack > those weak patents in Court -- and overturn them. > > Make no mistake about it: most software patents are weak. As Knuth has > pointed out athttp://eupat.ffii.org/gasnu/knuth/index.en.htmland > elsewhere, most of them fail to meet the criterion of being non- > obvious. Rather, Knuth expects his CS students to be able to solve > such problems as homework problems. > > Now let's not forget: Knuth is still Professor Emiritus at Stanford, > where a LOT of Google guys come from. So I am sure they understand > quite well why Knuth is right. All we need now is the precedent in > Court to get it into case law. But this lawsuit is perfect for setting > this precedent. > > That is why I have been saying since I first heard of this suit: > Oracle has made a major mistake, attacking one of the few companies > with both the resources and the will to defeat Oracle in Court. > > On Aug 15, 7:46 am, DanH <[email protected]> wrote: > > > In my opinion the worst outcome would be one where Oracle could > > extract royalties from Android sales **and** Oracle felt free to do > > Microsoft-like licensing, where they gave different "partners" > > different terms, tied licensing to use of Oracle software, etc. A > > simple $5-$10 a pop phone license, on the other hand, would be painful > > but not a killer, and not enough to seriously distort the market. > > > On Aug 15, 3:24 am, Fabrizio Giudici <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 8/14/10 23:04 , Sebasti n Treu wrote:> The problem it's not if Oracle > > > wants to shutdown Android. The > > > > problem is how this will *affect* the android platform both > > > > acceptance and distribution. Android is new and it's making his way > > > > in the market. With this issue on the horizon, how will affect > > > > Android to be the choice of phone makers? Will you risk, as a phone > > > > maker, to continue supporting Android and distributing it in your > > > > phone without knowing what is happening behind the scenes? > > > > Good points, but Android has already made its way in the market. The > > > same day Oracle filed the complaint (not a coincidence IMHO) there was > > > the news that Android has passed iPhone in the USA and it's #2 on the > > > USA market. So, it's well consolidated. The Oracle legal issue might > > > certainly make some damage, but it largely depends on how long the > > > trial will go on. I suppose that time is precisely one of the cards > > > that Oracle is playing. If they settle down to an agreement in a > > > relatively short time, we won't be affected by any major problem. So, > > > there are still some months before one should be worried, I think. > > > > - -- > > > Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager > > > Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work. Everywhere." > > > java.net/blog/fabriziogiudici -www.tidalwave.it/people > > > [email protected] > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) > > > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla -http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > > > iEYEARECAAYFAkxnpDcACgkQeDweFqgUGxcgagCgj82bwFlhqpq0BuyUC2cB9ohp > > > HW8An2zqzHyjRX1inXC8VbBAW1g7qdo2 > > > =bTFY > > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
