Since Google groups won't let me edit my original post, nor let me post this reply to your comments with my AdroitAndroid email address, please be aware that I am the original poster.
I find the lack of trust sad and offensive... but understandable. The application fee was meant to provide the LLC with startup cash, not to scam anyone. To address this concern, we have amended the program so that THERE IS NO APPLICATION FEE, but anyone accepted as a member must buy in, for which they will have documented proof of ownership and a signed operating agreement. The buy in amount will be determined when the number of founders is known and will be based on the projected costs of running the start-up for six months. Note that AdroitAndroid is not an agency. You won't just be talent farmed out for corporate profit. You will be AN OWNER who SHARES in the profit. The founders of this organization are experienced technologists, entrepreneurs, and management consultants who have strong professional credentials and who can provide professional references for anyone who has doubts about credibility. We are doing this to HELP the community, not hurt it. Please email me at my adroitandroid email address if you are interested. Joey, to address your second point, Flow 2 works best for the developer only if his application sells. If it doesn't, he's put all his time and effort into it for nothing. This "cult", as you call it, is a risk-management device so that the developer's risk is shared by a community. Thus, the developers with the top selling projects will earn less than they otherwise would, but the developers who would have earned less will get more. It balances everything out... On Oct 17, 1:44 pm, Joey Yandle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Wow, this is definitely the most blatant scam I've ever seen posted on > this list. > > > AdroitAndroid will have a promotional budget to > > advertise and promote your applications and then send you a check for > > a portion of the profits generated on ALL AdroitAndroid applications. > > > Restrictions and responsibilities: > > - You must apply for membership in the AdroitAndroid LLC. > > - There is a $200 non-refundable application fee. > > - All members must dedicate a (yet to be determined) set number of > > hours to work on AdroitAndroid projects and/or management. > > - All members will be subject to the operating agreement. > > Let's boil this down to the essentials. I will use DEV to represent the > independent developer, and AALLC to represent AdroitAndroid LLC, and I > will break it down to workflows. > > Flow 1 > - ------ > DEV pays AALLC $200. > AALLC tells dev "sorry, we don't want you". > > Summary: AALLC gets $200, DEV gets nothing. Total scam. > > Flow 2 > - ------ > DEV pays AALLC $200. > AALLC tells DEV "we want you". > DEV gives AALLC DEV's apps to sell. > DEV gives programming and management time to AALLC. > AALLC pays DEV "a portion of the profits". > > Summary: AALLC gets $200, DEV's apps, lots of DEV's time. DEV gets "a > portion of the profits", which must be less than DEV would have received > selling DEV's programs (has to pay out management and marketing costs, > at least). Not a total scam, more of a cult really. > > So, this offer is either a total scam, or a cult invitation. I > sincerely hope no one on this list is stupid enough to fall for this. > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla -http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFI+Pk1Nig/07RbnEsRAiRXAKDNzeSykO+EzHdqY5B+k59ykLtUhACg8Wvu > c8TnyA3Tn6VUlk4vqSfafVQ= > =uYum > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---

