Reply posted on android-discuss. Hopefully we can leave you guys to read 
more useful emails :).

Al.

david wrote:
> Since Google groups won't let me edit my original post, nor let me
> post this reply to your comments with my AdroitAndroid email address,
> please be aware that I am the original poster.
>
> I find the lack of trust sad and offensive... but understandable.
>
> The application fee was meant to provide the LLC with startup cash,
> not to scam anyone.  To address this concern, we have amended the
> program so that THERE IS NO APPLICATION FEE, but anyone accepted as a
> member must buy in, for which they will have documented proof of
> ownership and a signed operating agreement.  The buy in amount will be
> determined when the number of founders is known and will be based on
> the projected costs of running the start-up for six months.
>
> Note that AdroitAndroid is not an agency.  You won't just be talent
> farmed out for corporate profit.  You will be AN OWNER who SHARES in
> the profit.
>
> The founders of this organization are experienced technologists,
> entrepreneurs, and management consultants who have strong professional
> credentials and who can provide professional references for anyone who
> has doubts about credibility.  We are doing this to HELP the
> community, not hurt it.
>
> Please email me at my adroitandroid email address if you are
> interested.
>
>
>
> Joey, to address your second point, Flow 2 works best for the
> developer only if his application sells.  If it doesn't, he's put all
> his time and effort into it for nothing.  This "cult", as you call it,
> is a risk-management device so that the developer's risk is shared by
> a community.  Thus, the developers with the top selling projects will
> earn less than they otherwise would, but the developers who would have
> earned less will get more.  It balances everything out...
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 17, 1:44 pm, Joey Yandle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
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>> Wow, this is definitely the most blatant scam I've ever seen posted on
>> this list.
>>
>>     
>>> AdroitAndroid will have a promotional budget to
>>> advertise and promote your applications and then send you a check for
>>> a portion of the profits generated on ALL AdroitAndroid applications.
>>>       
>>> Restrictions and responsibilities:
>>> -  You must apply for membership in the AdroitAndroid LLC.
>>> -  There is a $200 non-refundable application fee.
>>> -  All members must dedicate a (yet to be determined) set number of
>>> hours to work on AdroitAndroid projects and/or management.
>>> -  All members will be subject to the operating agreement.
>>>       
>> Let's boil this down to the essentials.  I will use DEV to represent the
>> independent developer, and AALLC to represent AdroitAndroid LLC, and I
>> will break it down to workflows.
>>
>> Flow 1
>> - ------
>> DEV pays AALLC $200.
>> AALLC tells dev "sorry, we don't want you".
>>
>> Summary: AALLC gets $200, DEV gets nothing.  Total scam.
>>
>> Flow 2
>> - ------
>> DEV pays AALLC $200.
>> AALLC tells DEV "we want you".
>> DEV gives AALLC DEV's apps to sell.
>> DEV gives programming and management time to AALLC.
>> AALLC pays DEV "a portion of the profits".
>>
>> Summary: AALLC gets $200, DEV's apps, lots of DEV's time.  DEV gets "a
>> portion of the profits", which must be less than DEV would have received
>> selling DEV's programs (has to pay out management and marketing costs,
>> at least).  Not a total scam, more of a cult really.
>>
>> So, this offer is either a total scam, or a cult invitation.  I
>> sincerely hope no one on this list is stupid enough to fall for this.
>>
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