gtalk was in the api at the time of ADC 1. my point is what if we won
a prize ? what would google do ? will thay say BabelFish is rewarded,
it is a cool app but unfortunately it wont work on the actual phone. i
dont think so, so i beleive usage of XMPP api simply effected
judgement process..

r a f t

On 31 Ekim, 06:35, ______ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> They *said* you can use whatever SDK version you want.  Supposedly the
> laptops that were delivered to judges were set up to work with all SDK
> versions, and each app was set up with the correct SDK version.
> Nevertheless I hope you get a personalized response from a Googler,
> that's a cool app idea.
>
> On Oct 30, 12:55 pm, r a f t <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > hello,
>
> > we had developed an application (BabelFish) and had entered the ADC 1.
> > we were very hopeful, got very positive responses from friends and
> > forum users.
>
> > in shortBabelFishis a translated voice and text IM (Instant
> > Messaging) service. it enables translated conversations among two or
> > more parties. each partner writes messages in his own language and his/
> > her message is instantly translated and delivered other partners in
> > their languages. optionally delivered messages are synthesized into
> > speech and played at destination handsets.
>
> > but unfortunately we got nothing in the contest. we weren't even in
> > the first 50% in neither of the judging criteria. it was really hard
> > to believe...
>
> > it was a contest, we somehow accepted the situation and putBabelFish
> > to shelf for later opportunities. now Android market is open, we
> > decided to putBabelFishthere and guess what !? google had removed
> > GTalk (XMPP) service from api, whichBabelFishmainly depends on.
> > remember the documentation at early releases, it was stated that XMPP
> > is the preferred way of device to device communication. now it's gone,
> > untill an unknown date, and we are left with WASTED months of work..
> > even if in the future GTalk service is put into api again, we lost the
> > advantage of being one of the first comers in the market..
>
> > looking from this perspective, i had reviewed all finalist and winner
> > applications. it's hard to say from descriptions but seems as none of
> > them are/were using GTalk service.
>
> > now i really WONDER if using GTalk service was a hidden judging
> > criteria. i assume at the time of ADC round 1 google had plans to
> > remove GTalk service from api and cannot afford giving prize to an
> > application which wont work on the actual device ! are there any
> > finalist appllications using GTalk service ?
>
> > if we had any clue, we would develop some other application or maybe
> > wouldn't develop any. it is really wasted months of work. google
> > should mention this earlier..
>
> > more aboutBabelFishand a short discussion about ADC judgement can be
> > found 
> > at:http://groups.google.com/group/android-challenge/browse_thread/thread...
>
> > r a f t
>
>
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