(i hope i dont sound too obnoxious)

the platform is linux based, google had no choices but open sourced
it. :-)

To me, the apps are the interesting bits but they are not fully
opened. For example, they referenced codes/packages that were close-
sourced or missing (i.e. speech recognition ). Also, as you said, some
apps are completely missing.

I understand there could be many reasons why they are missing, but I
think i wasnt wrong to call the code base crippled. :)

On Nov 14, 3:11 pm, Romain Guy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The entire platform is open sourced. Only some Google apps (YouTube,
> Gmail, etc.) are not open sourced.
>
> What exactly do you find "crippled"? What is missing for you?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:08 PM, zl25drexel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > you guys did not open-source everything. it's pretty hard to figure
> > out how things work using a cripple code base.
>
> > On Nov 13, 2:14 pm, hackbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> On Nov 12, 6:38 am, zl25drexel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> > please, put that API to replace the lock screen, i will be more than
> >> > happy to use that instead of my little hack.
>
> >> Yes this would be nice to have, but at this point it is a lower
> >> priority for the core android team than a lot of other things.  If
> >> this is something you really want, you could look into adding the
> >> feature to the platform.  One warning though: doing complete support
> >> for replacing the lock screen is going to be really hard, because all
> >> of the security and interaction issues it deals with are quite
> >> complicated.
>
> >> > I am pretty sure toddler is also disguising asHOMEscreen because i
> >> > tried restarting the app in the onstop method, the desktop will show
> >> > up for half of a second before the app is restarted, that's clearly
> >> > not the behavior we see in toddler lock. So i think it does the same
> >> > thing.
>
> >> No, it does another trick, which the system should also protect
> >> against but is not so obviously a flaw.
>
> >> For your idea of forcing your app to be thehomescreen, look at it
> >> this way.  On android, thehomekey serves as our equivalent of Ctrl
> >> +Alt+Delete for the user: it is the one thing they can press, which
> >> they are guaranteed will get them out of whatever app they are in and
> >> back to a known trusted location.  By forcing yourself to be thehome
> >> screen behind the user's back, you are causing the system to violate
> >> that trust it has established with the user, stepping down the path of
> >> simply being malicious.  In fact, this API should never have made it
> >> in to the platform -- as I said, this is an old approach we did to
> >> preferred applications, it completely conflicts with the current model
> >> (which allows the user to select the preferred activity for each
> >> action), and as such is a pretty big security hole.  It will be
> >> removed in a future release.
>
> >> So, uh, thank-you for finding that approach, but please don't use
> >> it. :)
>
> --
> Romain Guywww.curious-creature.org
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