> I lol'd... +1
-- Chris Stewart http://chriswstewart.com On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:30 AM, nation-x <shawn.payme...@gmail.com> wrote: > I lol'd... > > On Apr 5, 8:25 am, Craigbtx <craig...@austin.rr.com> wrote: > > I agree with Dirk and others. After using Microsofts development > > environment, Visual Studio and asp.net for me, there is no reason to > > code database connections, html tables of data etc., sql update, > > delete and insert commands. If you know them that is great and it is > > helpful. But by having a full mature visual development environment > > you can concentrate on the application and not the code, unless > > necessary. I have developed a fully functional asp.net application > > with 53 database driven pages with lists and forms with full insert > > update and delete capabilities, full security with logins, retrieve > > passwords, create new users all in 2 weeks. No code! > > > > Later we added business rules and error trapping but what a head > > start. If needed then you dig into code but use the built in mature > > tools to the fullest. I had a problem once and got answers of 150 > > lines of code. The solution was 1 line of code. > > > > We do not need to reinvent the wheel on every application. Thirty > > years ago we had database application software that didn't require you > > to code database connections, insert, deletes and update statements, > > button clicks etc. I hope we have progressed farther that that. > > > > Eclipse is the best visual environment for Android code but far from > > Microsofts Visual Studio development environment. > > > > Ever seen app_inventor, visual environment from Google? Interesting. I > > wonder if it will ever be released? It may be too visual and maybe no > > as powerful, butinteresting none the less. > > > > On Apr 5, 1:19 am, dirk <dhaa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hold on a minute. I really don't care the least bit about underlying > > > code, that is, the XML that's generated by a really good design tool. > > > Saying you should have to learn the XML (in this case) is like saying > > > you have to learn the bytecode that's generated from the java code. > > > Sure, you always need understand the structure, but with good tools, > > > you can _focus_ on the structure and not worry about the details. > > > > > On Apr 4, 7:01 pm, Robert <rcope...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Layout is part of development. Having tools to help with that are > aids > > > > but should not be used as an excuse not to learn the underlying code. > > > > THe designer tools only generate the structures based on the rules > > > > programmed into them. You will always have a more detailed level of > > > > control by going to the lowest level available. Learn it and it'll > > > > make you a better developer and your programs to be more > > > > efficient. Using the higher level tools makes you only as > > > > efficient at they are. > > > > > > Yes, it takes time and yes you have to learn it but that's what being > > > > a real developer is all about. > > > > Robert- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Android Developers" group. > To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
