Sure, I'm just saying. :-) On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Christopher Van Kirk <[email protected]> wrote: > I honestly think this is one of those cases where you have to just say > 'we'll cross that bridge when we come to it,' and carry on doing something > else. > > On 11/28/2011 4:20 AM, Latimerius wrote: >> >> Evidence or not, what he's talking about is likely to happen in some >> form. There are games for the Android platform, and some of them have >> objectionable contents - not objectionable to me, perhaps not to you >> but to a potentially significant part of buying public. Blood, >> violence, the usual stuff. It won't be long until someone notices the >> "objectionable" ones are indistinguishable from the rest at Android >> Market, so parents don't have a way of telling whether or not a game >> is suitable for their kids. Ratings will be the remedy. This is just >> a repeat of what has already happened on other platforms, you don't >> have to be clairvoyant to expect this with a reasonable degree of >> certainty. >> >> Obviously, whether ratings come tomorrow or in two years, or how much >> they will be remains to be seen. I don't expect them to be free >> though. >> >> Also, not promoting unrated games would be a natural thing to do for >> Google. Why would they want to promote potentially dodgy stuff that >> can get them into trouble and cause significant damage to their and >> Android's image? Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if unrated games >> end up banned from the Market after some time (just speculating here, >> although again based on experience from other gaming markets). >> >> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Lew<[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Binxalot wrote: >>>> >>>> There's nothing in writing from Google that games will not be promoted >>> >>> So you have no evidence whatsoever. >>> >>>> on the marketplace without a rating just rumors. - but - there is no >>>> other reason to suspect that the new rating system as it applies to >>>> mobile phones would be different than the one for desktops and >>>> consoles. Why would it? It’s the same content, just a different >>> >>> What system is that? Now you have to provide evidence that such a thing >>> applies to desktop games, and how it affects the very different Android >>> marketplace(s). >>> Your "evidence" for a claim even you admit has no substance is another >>> claim >>> for which you provide no substance. >>>> >>>> distribution platform. So yes, when this announcement is made then >>> >>> I'm sorry, "when this announcement is made"? You can't prove a >>> conclusion >>> by stating the conclusion itself as evidence. >>> That's a logical fallacy,. >>> >>>> there will be two types of games - games with a rating and games >>> >>> You're wrong, there won't be, not in any manner that justifies your >>> attempt >>> at FUDwords.. >>> >>>> without - and like on all other platforms the hopes of getting your >>>> game in to a mainstream outlet would require an upfront cost of $800 >>>> for a rating. It couldn't be anything other than that or console game >>> >>> Baloney. >>> >>>> developers and other game developers would cry fowl at having to pay >>>> two fees for the same rating on two platforms. Also all of the mobile >>> >>> More nonsense. >>> You were asked for evidence, not more wild assertions based on your first >>> unproven one. >>> Unproven? Hell, not even supported. >>> >>>> companies involved would have to accept this agreement or be seen as >>>> allowing children access to violent games by customers / competition, >>>> and if they accept the terms of the ESRB mobile rating system then >>>> there's no addition need for more useless legislation from the >>>> government. >>> >>>> In the end the small developer loses, I can pay $800 for a rating, it >>>> would take me months to save up for it, but in the end I have to now >>>> make up the loss of the rating cost and then after I dig out of that >>>> hole if I'm lucky. Only months later would I see a profit from my game >>>> on the store. Then we'd still be fighting against the mega AAA titles >>>> which now litter featured marketplace. >>>> >>>> Also this goes even further because now we have a breakup of the >>>> android marketplace with Verizon and Amazon both pushing their own >>>> separate app stores which all have a separate submission process and >>>> hoops to jump through. >>> >>> Since you provide no evidence, much less proof, of your thesis, only spin >>> more wild paranoid fantasies when pressed for evidence, I m led strongly >>> to >>> my own conclusion - that your thesis is full of crap. >>> Otherwise you'd've responded to the call for evidence that, for some >>> reason, >>> no one else but you has ever seen. Likely because it doesn't exist, and >>> your claims are so far beyond fallacious as to land in tin-foil-hat >>> territory. >>> -- >>> Lew >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Android Developers" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected] >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Android Developers" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
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