I appreciate you helping me clarify the situation. Cheers!
On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:39:11 PM UTC-7, Fran wrote: > > Well, bear in mind that I was about to install the application just for > helping you for free, so I am actually not interested on it enough to read > the app description... > > Anyway I realized after writing my previous message that N7 has no phone > at all, so that permission has no effect neither... so I installed the app > and it actually SHOWS the menu soft button at bottom right as expected. May > be some users are just "special"... > On Sep 20, 2012 12:26 AM, "Keith Wiley" <kbw...@gmail.com <javascript:>> > wrote: > >> OYE! We're off topic and this is a very common complaint. People butt >> heads with me over the permissions all. the. time. It's so frustrating. I >> do the best I can to explain these things up front on the Android Market >> (or "Google Play" [worst name ever]) but the Google Play interface is not >> amenable to disseminating this kind of information efficiently. For >> example, I offer an explanation for the various permissions right there on >> Google Play in the app description, but people don't read it anyway...and >> then they give me a hard time about the permissions even though I explained >> before they ever install the app! I can't stand it!!! :-D >> <laughing-at-the-absurdity-of-the-situation> >> >> The app is a spreadsheet. The ability to jump to the phone dialer was a >> specific user request (not even my idea) to enable users to tap phone >> numbers in spread sheets and jump to the dialer app to easy calling. It's >> really quite an intuitive concept when you think about it, I thought it was >> a fantastic suggestion from a user interfaced point of view, but you >> honestly would not believe how much grief I've gotten over it. >> >> On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:09:30 PM UTC-7, Fran wrote: >>> >>> Why it needs permission to call phone numbers? I rather like to try it >>> on my N7, but no with such permission, indeed. >>> On Sep 19, 2012 11:53 PM, "Keith Wiley" <kbw...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Shead Spreet Lite. I would also be curious about WildSpectra Mobile >>>> Lite. Since they are built in very similar ways (w.r.t. the basic OS >>>> framework and model) I expect their menu behavior to be similar such that >>>> verifying with either one should inform me about both...I presume. >>>> >>>> Thanks a bunch! >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 2:47:56 PM UTC-7, Fran wrote: >>>>> >>>>> What's your app? Is on Google play? >>>>> On Sep 19, 2012 11:36 PM, "Keith Wiley" <kbw...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Well, that's fair. I'm not denying the the current release is a >>>>>> little old and targets older SDKs. The app could certainly benefit from >>>>>> some sprucing up. However, I wanted to verify whether the app *should* >>>>>> essentially work on modern hardware given that some users were emailing >>>>>> me >>>>>> saying they didn't know how to access the menus. There's a big >>>>>> difference >>>>>> between saying I ought to update my app when I get a chance to keep >>>>>> things >>>>>> smooth and modern and saying the app is effectively broken on modern >>>>>> hardware and won't work until I release an emergency patch to get it >>>>>> going >>>>>> again. >>>>>> >>>>>> I was just trying to get a better picture of the circumstances. I >>>>>> *think* this discussion has cleared it up, and I *think* my app should >>>>>> be >>>>>> working on modern devices, albeit through an OS sidedoor meant as a >>>>>> temporary fix until older apps are updated. I'll have to try to find a >>>>>> Nexus to test it on myself to be absolutely certain of the circumstances. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks again. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 2:27:36 PM UTC-7, Fran wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What Mark said is that you did things the "standard" way, users >>>>>>> without hard menu button will see a soft one. But if you did it another >>>>>>> way, it won't be shown. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So you should update your app. >>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2012 11:08 PM, "Keith Wiley" <kbw...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:58:42 PM UTC-7, bob wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Many of the latest Android devices have eliminated the hard menu >>>>>>>>>> key found on earlier hardware. Consequently, it's now the >>>>>>>>>> responsibility of >>>>>>>>>> app developers to include soft menu keys in their apps. * >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Um, forgive me, but this response seems fundamentally at odds with >>>>>>>> Mark's initial response. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Which response is closer to the correct answer? Is my app >>>>>>>> inherently broken on such devices or not? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>> >>> -- > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en
