Android is open source, that doesn't mean Android devices have to be. On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > > Ouch. > > Bang goes the open source idea. > > Disconnect wrote: >> The building-for-dream page points to the script (extract-files.sh): >> adb pull /system/etc/AudioFilter.csv proprietary/AudioFilter.csv >> adb pull /system/etc/AudioPara4.csv proprietary/AudioPara4.csv >> adb pull /system/etc/gps.conf proprietary/gps.conf >> adb pull /system/etc/firmware/brf6300.bin proprietary/brf6300.bin >> adb pull /system/bin/akmd proprietary/akmd >> adb pull /system/lib/libhtc_ril.so proprietary/libhtc_ril.so >> adb pull /system/lib/libaudioeq.so proprietary/libaudioeq.so >> adb pull /system/lib/libqcamera.so proprietary/libqcamera.so >> adb pull /system/lib/libgps.so proprietary/libgps.so >> adb pull /system/lib/libhgl.so proprietary/libhgl.so >> adb pull /system/etc/wifi/Fw1251r1c.bin proprietary/Fw1251r1c.bin >> adb pull /system/etc/wifi/tiwlan.ini proprietary/tiwlan.ini >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Al Sutton <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> >> Any pointers to what the proprietary binaries are?, there are >> probably a >> few people who'd like to work on open source equivalents or methods of >> removing the dependencies. >> >> Al >> >> Jean-Baptiste Queru wrote: >> > On the open-source side of things, the biggest problem is that the >> > port of Android to the HTC Dream (the which is the ADP1 hardware) >> > relies on proprietary binaries that aren't conveniently available to >> > the general public, and even the current solution of reading the 1.0 >> > or 1.1 version of those binaries from an existing device isn't >> > properly developed or maintained. I don't know how practical it >> is for >> > "outsiders" to try to help on that front, though it sounds >> > theoretically possible. But that discussion isn't relevant on this >> > list. >> > >> > On the SDK side of things, sadly I'm really afraid that everything >> > that needs to be done can only be done by "insiders". >> > >> > JBQ >> > >> > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Al Sutton <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > >> >> JBQ, >> >> >> >> Are there any problems with the ADP1 build that you can share >> with the >> >> list, maybe someone here can help. >> >> >> >> Al. >> >> >> >> Jean-Baptiste Queru wrote: >> >> >> >>> It would take more effort to support 2 developer devices >> instead of 1. >> >>> The current message from the developer community is crystal >> clear: the >> >>> effort that's currently being spent on the ADP1 by the people >> who can >> >>> resolve the current issues with it is frustratingly >> inadequate. Adding >> >>> a second device on those people's plate is unlikely to make things >> >>> better. >> >>> >> >>> JBQ >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Daniel <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> You only have to look at the "fun" people are having trying >> to get an >> >>>>> updated ADP1 image to see how the support for developer >> devices is >> >>>>> falling a fair way short of where it should be (remember, >> the ADP1 which >> >>>>> is targetted at developers can't see paid-for apps yet, so >> the very >> >>>>> people who are suppose to be writing the apps can't see what >> the users >> >>>>> are saying). >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> Is that an issue that would require double the effort to >> resolve if >> >>>> there was more than one developer phone available? Or would the >> >>>> solution on the ADP1 also solve the problem on the ADP2? >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> I doubt that a G2 would be cheaper than a G1 in terms of >> buying it and >> >>>>> shipping it as a developer phone, so I can't see why there >> would be a >> >>>>> solid reason to do it. If you don't like the current ADP >> costs, why not >> >>>>> pick up a FreeRunner from Koolu, or use one of the ports for >> some of the >> >>>>> commodity hardware that's already available (e.g. NITdroid >> on an N810). >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> The handset cost is not the real issue here - it's more about >> having a >> >>>> variety of handsets available for developers, as well as the >> various >> >>>> marketing and promotional activities that might be undertaken >> by a >> >>>> firm developing with Android. Amongst other things, some >> people have >> >>>> commented on the G1's physical appearance, and the G1 has >> battery life >> >>>> issues. >> >>>> >> >>>> Thanks for the heads-up about FreeRunner, I had not seen that >> phone, >> >>>> although I notice they don't offer quad band. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> * Written an Android App? - List it at http://andappstore.com/ * >> >> >> >> ====== >> >> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the >> >> company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, >> >> 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. >> >> >> >> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not >> >> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or >> it's >> >> subsidiaries. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > > * Written an Android App? - List it at http://andappstore.com/ * > > ====== > Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the > company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, > 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. > > The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not > necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's > subsidiaries. > > > > >
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