Thanks for the explanation.

S



On 25 Feb 2009, at 18:08, Jean-Baptiste Queru wrote:

>
> On the open-source side of things, the biggest problem is that the
> port of Android to the HTC Dream (the which is the ADP1 hardware)
> relies on proprietary binaries that aren't conveniently available to
> the general public, and even the current solution of reading the 1.0
> or 1.1 version of those binaries from an existing device isn't
> properly developed or maintained. I don't know how practical it is for
> "outsiders" to try to help on that front, though it sounds
> theoretically possible. But that discussion isn't relevant on this
> list.
>
> On the SDK side of things, sadly I'm really afraid that everything
> that needs to be done can only be done by "insiders".
>
> JBQ
>
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Al Sutton <[email protected]>  
> wrote:
>>
>> JBQ,
>>
>> Are there any problems with the ADP1 build that you can share with  
>> the
>> list, maybe someone here can help.
>>
>> Al.
>>
>> Jean-Baptiste Queru wrote:
>>> It would take more effort to support 2 developer devices instead  
>>> of 1.
>>> The current message from the developer community is crystal clear:  
>>> the
>>> effort that's currently being spent on the ADP1 by the people who  
>>> can
>>> resolve the current issues with it is frustratingly inadequate.  
>>> Adding
>>> a second device on those people's plate is unlikely to make things
>>> better.
>>>
>>> JBQ
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Daniel <[email protected]>  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> You only have to look at the "fun" people are having trying to  
>>>>> get an
>>>>> updated ADP1 image to see how the support for developer devices is
>>>>> falling a fair way short of where it should be (remember, the  
>>>>> ADP1 which
>>>>> is targetted at developers can't see paid-for apps yet, so the  
>>>>> very
>>>>> people who are suppose to be writing the apps can't see what the  
>>>>> users
>>>>> are saying).
>>>>>
>>>> Is that an issue that would require double the effort to resolve if
>>>> there was more than one developer phone available? Or would the
>>>> solution on the ADP1 also solve the problem on the ADP2?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I doubt that a G2 would be cheaper than a G1 in terms of buying  
>>>>> it and
>>>>> shipping it as a developer phone, so I can't see why there would  
>>>>> be a
>>>>> solid reason to do it. If you don't like the current ADP costs,  
>>>>> why not
>>>>> pick up a FreeRunner from Koolu, or use one of the ports for  
>>>>> some of the
>>>>> commodity hardware that's already available (e.g. NITdroid on an  
>>>>> N810).
>>>>>
>>>> The handset cost is not the real issue here - it's more about  
>>>> having a
>>>> variety of handsets available for developers, as well as the  
>>>> various
>>>> marketing and promotional activities that might be undertaken by a
>>>> firm developing with Android.  Amongst other things, some people  
>>>> have
>>>> commented on the G1's physical appearance, and the G1 has battery  
>>>> life
>>>> issues.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the heads-up about FreeRunner, I had not seen that  
>>>> phone,
>>>> although I notice they don't offer quad band.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>>>
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru
> Android Engineer, Google.
>
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>
> >


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