So you'll be releasing the sources to ANDROID market and the GLS any day now, right? :)
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Romain Guy <[email protected]> wrote: > > Android is open source, that doesn't mean Android devices have to be. > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Ouch. > > > > Bang goes the open source idea. > > > > Disconnect wrote: > >> The building-for-dream page points to the script (extract-files.sh): > >> adb pull /system/etc/AudioFilter.csv proprietary/AudioFilter.csv > >> adb pull /system/etc/AudioPara4.csv proprietary/AudioPara4.csv > >> adb pull /system/etc/gps.conf proprietary/gps.conf > >> adb pull /system/etc/firmware/brf6300.bin proprietary/brf6300.bin > >> adb pull /system/bin/akmd proprietary/akmd > >> adb pull /system/lib/libhtc_ril.so proprietary/libhtc_ril.so > >> adb pull /system/lib/libaudioeq.so proprietary/libaudioeq.so > >> adb pull /system/lib/libqcamera.so proprietary/libqcamera.so > >> adb pull /system/lib/libgps.so proprietary/libgps.so > >> adb pull /system/lib/libhgl.so proprietary/libhgl.so > >> adb pull /system/etc/wifi/Fw1251r1c.bin proprietary/Fw1251r1c.bin > >> adb pull /system/etc/wifi/tiwlan.ini proprietary/tiwlan.ini > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Al Sutton <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Any pointers to what the proprietary binaries are?, there are > >> probably a > >> few people who'd like to work on open source equivalents or methods > of > >> removing the dependencies. > >> > >> Al > >> > >> Jean-Baptiste Queru wrote: > >> > On the open-source side of things, the biggest problem is that the > >> > port of Android to the HTC Dream (the which is the ADP1 hardware) > >> > relies on proprietary binaries that aren't conveniently available > to > >> > the general public, and even the current solution of reading the > 1.0 > >> > or 1.1 version of those binaries from an existing device isn't > >> > properly developed or maintained. I don't know how practical it > >> is for > >> > "outsiders" to try to help on that front, though it sounds > >> > theoretically possible. But that discussion isn't relevant on this > >> > list. > >> > > >> > On the SDK side of things, sadly I'm really afraid that everything > >> > that needs to be done can only be done by "insiders". > >> > > >> > JBQ > >> > > >> > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Al Sutton <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > > >> >> JBQ, > >> >> > >> >> Are there any problems with the ADP1 build that you can share > >> with the > >> >> list, maybe someone here can help. > >> >> > >> >> Al. > >> >> > >> >> Jean-Baptiste Queru wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> It would take more effort to support 2 developer devices > >> instead of 1. > >> >>> The current message from the developer community is crystal > >> clear: the > >> >>> effort that's currently being spent on the ADP1 by the people > >> who can > >> >>> resolve the current issues with it is frustratingly > >> inadequate. Adding > >> >>> a second device on those people's plate is unlikely to make > things > >> >>> better. > >> >>> > >> >>> JBQ > >> >>> > >> >>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Daniel <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> You only have to look at the "fun" people are having trying > >> to get an > >> >>>>> updated ADP1 image to see how the support for developer > >> devices is > >> >>>>> falling a fair way short of where it should be (remember, > >> the ADP1 which > >> >>>>> is targetted at developers can't see paid-for apps yet, so > >> the very > >> >>>>> people who are suppose to be writing the apps can't see what > >> the users > >> >>>>> are saying). > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> Is that an issue that would require double the effort to > >> resolve if > >> >>>> there was more than one developer phone available? Or would the > >> >>>> solution on the ADP1 also solve the problem on the ADP2? > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> I doubt that a G2 would be cheaper than a G1 in terms of > >> buying it and > >> >>>>> shipping it as a developer phone, so I can't see why there > >> would be a > >> >>>>> solid reason to do it. If you don't like the current ADP > >> costs, why not > >> >>>>> pick up a FreeRunner from Koolu, or use one of the ports for > >> some of the > >> >>>>> commodity hardware that's already available (e.g. NITdroid > >> on an N810). > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> The handset cost is not the real issue here - it's more about > >> having a > >> >>>> variety of handsets available for developers, as well as the > >> various > >> >>>> marketing and promotional activities that might be undertaken > >> by a > >> >>>> firm developing with Android. Amongst other things, some > >> people have > >> >>>> commented on the G1's physical appearance, and the G1 has > >> battery life > >> >>>> issues. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Thanks for the heads-up about FreeRunner, I had not seen that > >> phone, > >> >>>> although I notice they don't offer quad band. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >> -- > >> >> > >> >> * Written an Android App? - List it at http://andappstore.com/ * > >> >> > >> >> ====== > >> >> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the > >> >> company number 6741909. 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