As far as I know by the time you remove from ADP1 the features that
would allow access to forward-locked apps (flashable, root, debuggable
system), you have essentially a consumer device.

JBQ

2009/3/2 vendor.net <vendor....@gmail.com>:
>
>> Most importantly though, I'm really disappointed in Google's lack of
>> communication on the topic.  I have to scour the web just to find a
>> hint of some idea of what's going on with the dev phone.  There is no
>> official word or anything.  Google should at least have a posting on
>> the Developer's blog.  Where is Google's "Contact Us" link for those
>> of us who paid the $25?
> Totally agree!
>
> Hint for some desperate developers who wants to trade ADP1 for G1. You
> can put the G1 firmware. Your phone will be full locked except for the
> sim card I think, but you will have G1 firmware. Just have to flash
> it, but still I didn`t think that this is the solution...
>
> I see one possible solution for dealing with the situation: To have 2
> versions for developers. The first version will be totally unlocked,
> but it will not support the full market. The second version will lock
> only these dirs which contains the paid apps. The second version of
> the firmware will lock only the dirs and the processes which control
> the copy/protection of the apps. There could be flaws, but I will be
> happy to read your comments about it. It is a possible solution? JQB?
>
> On 1 Март, 08:08, Sen <senecajust...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Well, you all have certainly taken this discussion in an interesting
>> direction.
>>
>> I would just like to add to my original posting.  Hopefully we still
>> have some official Google person's attention.
>>
>> I'm pretty understanding when it comes to deadlines not being met when
>> it comes to stuff like this.  We're all developers here and I'm sure
>> we've all experienced this.  I would agree though that I think the
>> people that went out of their way and paid the extra money for a
>> "developer edition" phone, should be the first to get the updates.
>>
>> Most importantly though, I'm really disappointed in Google's lack of
>> communication on the topic.  I have to scour the web just to find a
>> hint of some idea of what's going on with the dev phone.  There is no
>> official word or anything.  Google should at least have a posting on
>> the Developer's blog.  Where is Google's "Contact Us" link for those
>> of us who paid the $25?
>>
>> Why do I have to ask this question?... we really should be better
>> informed.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> On Feb 28, 1:16 pm, Jon Colverson <jjc1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Feb 28, 6:46 pm, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > method), and, as far as I'm aware, there isn't a method circulating
>> > > which can be applied to any and every protected application to get a
>> > > protection free copy by following a simple set of instructions (if there
>> > > is I'd  welcome information on it so we can work on fixing the flaw it
>> > > uses).
>>
>> > I'm not aware of one either, but I expect that a tool would emerge
>> > very quickly if the AndAppStore takes off when it starts being
>> > distributed with handsets and such. You could then tweak the system to
>> > stop the tool from working, but then the attacker would release a new
>> > version, and you'd be in an arms race.
>>
>> > The reason why I say they're equivalent is that while the steps along
>> > the way may be different, the end result is the same: people who don't
>> > want to pay will get the apps for free. In my opinion adding extra
>> > hurdles just wastes the developers' time and provides a juicier
>> > intellectual challenge for those who are inclined to try to defeat the
>> > system.
>>
>> > --
>> > Jon
> >
>



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Android Engineer, Google.

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