Then, could you create a virtual partition for the secure dirs and encrypt
it with key which only the System knows and when you flash the system => you
loose the key?

2009/3/3 Jean-Baptiste Queru <j...@android.com>

>
> You don't need for wipe the data and cache partitions when flashing
> the boot, recovery or system partitions.
>
> JBQ
>
> 2009/3/2 vendor <vendor....@gmail.com>:
> > If you flash with the unlocked firmware you should delete the older
> first?
> > And to format the partition?
> >
> > 2009/3/3 Jean-Baptiste Queru <j...@android.com>
> >>
> >> That wouldn't work, as you could download with the "locked" firmware,
> >> flash an "unlocked" firmware, and get the files out.
> >>
> >> JBQ
> >>
> >> 2009/3/2 vendor <vendor....@gmail.com>:
> >> > What do you think about the idea of two firmware versions for ADP1?
> >> >
> >> > 2009/3/3 Jean-Baptiste Queru <j...@android.com>
> >> >>
> >> >> As far as I know by the time you remove from ADP1 the features that
> >> >> would allow access to forward-locked apps (flashable, root,
> debuggable
> >> >> system), you have essentially a consumer device.
> >> >>
> >> >> JBQ
> >> >>
> >> >> 2009/3/2 vendor.net <vendor....@gmail.com>:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Most importantly though, I'm really disappointed in Google's lack
> of
> >> >> >> communication on the topic.  I have to scour the web just to find
> a
> >> >> >> hint of some idea of what's going on with the dev phone.  There is
> >> >> >> no
> >> >> >> official word or anything.  Google should at least have a posting
> on
> >> >> >> the Developer's blog.  Where is Google's "Contact Us" link for
> those
> >> >> >> of us who paid the $25?
> >> >> > Totally agree!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hint for some desperate developers who wants to trade ADP1 for G1.
> >> >> > You
> >> >> > can put the G1 firmware. Your phone will be full locked except for
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > sim card I think, but you will have G1 firmware. Just have to flash
> >> >> > it, but still I didn`t think that this is the solution...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I see one possible solution for dealing with the situation: To have
> 2
> >> >> > versions for developers. The first version will be totally
> unlocked,
> >> >> > but it will not support the full market. The second version will
> lock
> >> >> > only these dirs which contains the paid apps. The second version of
> >> >> > the firmware will lock only the dirs and the processes which
> control
> >> >> > the copy/protection of the apps. There could be flaws, but I will
> be
> >> >> > happy to read your comments about it. It is a possible solution?
> JQB?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On 1 Март, 08:08, Sen <senecajust...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> Well, you all have certainly taken this discussion in an
> interesting
> >> >> >> direction.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I would just like to add to my original posting.  Hopefully we
> still
> >> >> >> have some official Google person's attention.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I'm pretty understanding when it comes to deadlines not being met
> >> >> >> when
> >> >> >> it comes to stuff like this.  We're all developers here and I'm
> sure
> >> >> >> we've all experienced this.  I would agree though that I think the
> >> >> >> people that went out of their way and paid the extra money for a
> >> >> >> "developer edition" phone, should be the first to get the updates.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Most importantly though, I'm really disappointed in Google's lack
> of
> >> >> >> communication on the topic.  I have to scour the web just to find
> a
> >> >> >> hint of some idea of what's going on with the dev phone.  There is
> >> >> >> no
> >> >> >> official word or anything.  Google should at least have a posting
> on
> >> >> >> the Developer's blog.  Where is Google's "Contact Us" link for
> those
> >> >> >> of us who paid the $25?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Why do I have to ask this question?... we really should be better
> >> >> >> informed.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Feb 28, 1:16 pm, Jon Colverson <jjc1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > On Feb 28, 6:46 pm, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > > method), and, as far as I'm aware, there isn't a method
> >> >> >> > > circulating
> >> >> >> > > which can be applied to any and every protected application to
> >> >> >> > > get
> >> >> >> > > a
> >> >> >> > > protection free copy by following a simple set of instructions
> >> >> >> > > (if
> >> >> >> > > there
> >> >> >> > > is I'd  welcome information on it so we can work on fixing the
> >> >> >> > > flaw
> >> >> >> > > it
> >> >> >> > > uses).
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > I'm not aware of one either, but I expect that a tool would
> emerge
> >> >> >> > very quickly if the AndAppStore takes off when it starts being
> >> >> >> > distributed with handsets and such. You could then tweak the
> >> >> >> > system
> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> > stop the tool from working, but then the attacker would release
> a
> >> >> >> > new
> >> >> >> > version, and you'd be in an arms race.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > The reason why I say they're equivalent is that while the steps
> >> >> >> > along
> >> >> >> > the way may be different, the end result is the same: people who
> >> >> >> > don't
> >> >> >> > want to pay will get the apps for free. In my opinion adding
> extra
> >> >> >> > hurdles just wastes the developers' time and provides a juicier
> >> >> >> > intellectual challenge for those who are inclined to try to
> defeat
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > system.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > Jon
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru
> >> >> Android Engineer, Google.
> >> >>
> >> >> Questions sent directly to me will likely get ignored or forwarded to
> >> >> a public forum with no further warning.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru
> >> Android Engineer, Google.
> >>
> >> Questions sent directly to me will likely get ignored or forwarded to
> >> a public forum with no further warning.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru
> Android Engineer, Google.
>
> Questions sent directly to me will likely get ignored or forwarded to
> a public forum with no further warning.
>
> >
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