Can one of you guys explain fill rate? I've read the AdMob site.. doesn't quite click with me. Btw, adwhirl is owned by admob, interesting. So if you basically need an app that is downloaded 10's of thousands of times to make a few bucks. By this I mean, if your app is downloaded by 10,000 users, and they run it once a week, you're not getting many "views" to ads. I am also confused as to why admob would want to decide to place their ads elsewhere? By this I mean.. if you request an ad and don't get one back, that is admob (or other service) deciding that they don't want your app to have that ad as often as you may be requesting it... but isn't it money for them? I don't understand why they would control that. As someone who has clicked on ads a couple of times, I'd much rather see ads faster than slower.. especially those that are regarding something I am interested in.
Do you guys know if any of these sites "target" users? I am not sure if their SDK is able to actually watch what a user does and try to target ads for that user. I am guessing not as that would be pretty intrusive on a mobile device. On a side note, are any of you guys making enough to live off of with android.. or is it basically a little spending cash and you just enjoy writing apps for android? I know the rare apps like iFart on iPhone and others that make the developer thousands, and in some cases millions in a short amount of time, but I would rather see a more sustained income coming in.. at some point your app is going to go further down on the market list.. how do you keep people buying it to keep money coming in? I would guess the free full version with ads is a better way to keep money coming in than the buy once and that's it. As well, how do you handle income taxes? If this is too off topic, I'd appreciate a private mail. I am trying to figure out how all this works and haven't found any good resource on how the whole keep your app selling on the market, IRS/income taxes, etc works. Thanks. On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 7:33 AM, Wayne Wenthin <wa...@fuligin.com> wrote: > Does anyone have experience with putting ads on Maps? Since my app is > almost completely map driven I would like to start doing the ad thing but > don't even know if it is possible. > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 6:49 AM, Justin Giles <jtgi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I agree with Greg (below). I too have a free ad supported full feature >> version as well as a no ad pay version. When all the coins are counted, I'm >> making more money with the free version than I am the pay version. Almost >> twice as much. >> >> In regards to the ad companies and performance, I switch between >> Greystripe and AdMob for every other ad in my game. AdMob is outperforming >> Greystripe almost 5:1 for the month of January. The month of December, it >> was only 2.5:1 in favor of AdMob. There are constant fluctuations in the ad >> market in terms of fill rate, etc. My fill rate average since I started >> showing ads (about 3 months) is around 80%. Not bad, but you do get >> discouraged when you see those low fill rate days as well as those low >> revenue days. My advice is to try one or two companies over a two month >> period and see which one does best for you on average. >> >> Justin >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Greg Donald <gdon...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Kevin Duffey <andjar...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > I am curious.. how do you work in ad support into an app? This is one >>> of the >>> > business models discussed in other threads, and it seems like providing >>> a >>> > lite version with ads, and a pay version is one way to go. Or, just do >>> a >>> > full version with ads in it all the time. >>> >>> I keep my feature set the same in both my free and non-free versions, >>> my free version just has ads is all. >>> >>> > I would love to know how to get >>> > started on adding "ad" support. How do you set up the ability to get >>> paid >>> > from the ad providers? >>> >>> You attach them to your bank account or they mail you a check. >>> >>> > How/when do you display ads, and where do you get the >>> > ads from? How many ads must display to earn $1. >>> >>> A lot. On a good day 20K, on a bad day 70K. >>> >>> > Etc. I'd love to know more >>> > about how all this works and how much you make or how you figure out >>> how >>> > much you can potentially make this way. >>> >>> My experience has been more profitable with Greystripe, they have the >>> full screen ads and seem to perform better than the smaller banner ads >>> from AdMob. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Greg Donald >>> destiney.com | gregdonald.com >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Android Developers" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<android-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Android Developers" group. >> To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<android-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en >> > > > > -- > Writing code is one of few things > that teaches me I don't know everything. > > Join the Closed Beta of Call Girl Manager > http://www.fuligin.com/forums > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Android Developers" group. > To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > android-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<android-developers%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en >
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