Just for clarification, did you really intend to type $150, or did you mean $1.50? If you really meant $150, great! But since other people report incomes in the single-digit dollar range, I thought perhaps it was a typo. Either way, it would be good to know.
On Mar 31, 1:10 pm, Streets Of Boston <flyingdutc...@gmail.com> wrote: > It is income, so you ought to report it to the IRS. The fact Google > doesn't send your income-details to the IRS (and it doesn't send you a > 1099), doesn't mean it's exempt from taxes... we can wish, though. And > who knows, the IRS may be able to figure it out when you get an audit. > And i think there's a $600 minimum limit before you need to report it. > > However, i think that for most of us, this is just a hobby. This means > that you can directly deduct expenses (e.g. computer, phone, etc). > However, for hobby-income, you can't deduct more than your income on > your hobby (e.g. for a photography hobby: deduct all of the costs of > your expensive DSLR and your nice lenses and selling just one picture, > that's not possible) > > BTW, i'm not a tax-man :) > > On Mar 31, 12:18 pm, Kevin Duffey <andjar...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Wayne et all,... > > > read more » > > > I agree.. it would look strange that they are giving that much money in > > transactions to individuals, but where do we find out about this? Some of > > you are selling apps... what are you doing to deal with income taxes? When > > you signed up to publish your app, were you required to give some sort of > > business tax id, or your social and some other info so that they know who > > you are and can send info to IRS? Where is the info that explains this? I > > want to be legit, but hey, if there is no process I don't mind not losing > > half of that 70% to the IRS. :D I already pay way too much in taxes. > > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Wayne Wenthin <wa...@fuligin.com> wrote: > > > I include both Jars and query my server on which ads to show. I default > > > to > > > Admob = false. This way if my query fails I get Mobclix. The key is to > > > place both ads in the same location and use the enabled and visible > > > methods. > > > > As for the accounting I'm sure they have to show who they are transferring > > > the cash to. I don't think the IRS would let them use any blatant methods > > > that look like money laundering. I'm not an accountant but I do run my > > > own business's and that method of accounting would trigger an audit > > > really > > > quick for a company the size of google. > > > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:35 AM, Abdul Mateen <abmat...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> I think I should also do this, i.e switch from Admob ---> QW or Mobclix. > > >> If even I made 50 per day it would be enough...but yes how to force user > > >> to > > >> update ? I have more than 10k active installs. > > > >> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Dan Sherman <impact...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > >>> I would imagine their tax lines look something like this: > > > >>> Client --> Google :: $1.00 > > >>> Google --> Developer :: $0.70 > > > >>> Google's taxable income: $0.30 > > > >>> Note that they don't explicitly tell the government "We paid XXX to > > >>> developer Y", they just note that the money left their hands, and that > > >>> they > > >>> shouldn't be taxed on it. Essentially, its your responsibility to > > >>> mention > > >>> that you received the money. If they wanted to track that cash, should > > >>> be > > >>> very easy to see :) > > > >>> - Dan > > > >>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:16 AM, Kevin Duffey > > >>> <andjar...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > >>>> I would think the same thing. Maybe it's the google market that doesn't > > >>>> report it? I had asked about this some time ago, for those selling > > >>>> apps and > > >>>> making their 70%, at tax time do they get some 1099 or something, and > > >>>> several said no. So I am unclear as to how the market handles taxes... > > >>>> as > > >>>> well, if you do micro transactions in your app, where you charge $1 > > >>>> for some > > >>>> virtual item, using paypal/google, who take a cut, how is that > > >>>> handled? Does > > >>>> google/paypal send in info on how much was paid to you.. that is not > > >>>> clear > > >>>> to me at all. > > > >>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Dan Sherman > > >>>> <impact...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > >>>>> I would very seriously suspect that they report it. I remember having > > >>>>> to give a social-security/tax-id to Adsense when signing up. And just > > >>>>> thinking through their tax predicament (bringing in tons of money, and > > >>>>> seeing a lot of it go straight back out), they're going to need to > > >>>>> keep > > >>>>> records, and report as to where that money went out to. Mostly so > > >>>>> they > > >>>>> don't have to pay taxes on it (was your profits, not theirs). > > > >>>>> - Dan > > > >>>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Kevin Duffey > > >>>>> <andjar...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > >>>>>> Well, yes, you *should* report it.. but if google and admob and so > > >>>>>> forth don't report anything to the IRS, then it's basically on good > > >>>>>> faith. > > >>>>>> There isn't presently any way for them to track how much you make. I > > >>>>>> would > > >>>>>> imagine eventually something will come into play. > > > >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Wayne Wenthin > > >>>>>> <wa...@fuligin.com>wrote: > > > >>>>>>> I'll chime in on this. I have switched from admob to mobclix > > >>>>>>> recently. (actually I can control which one I use base on a > > >>>>>>> network check) > > >>>>>>> I have noticed my CTR jump from around 2-3 a day to around 7. This > > >>>>>>> makes me > > >>>>>>> more inclined to hang with them. But I only changed after I watch > > >>>>>>> admob > > >>>>>>> drop from around 7 a day to 1-2. Now 150 a day is my new goal ;-) > > >>>>>>> But I > > >>>>>>> figure if I can bring in 100 a month or so it's still better than > > >>>>>>> nothing. > > > >>>>>>> As for the IRS thing this is all income and it will need to be > > >>>>>>> reported in some way. > > > >>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Abdul Mateen > > >>>>>>> <abmat...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > >>>>>>>> Yes Really Moto $150/day is a damn good income from Ads, I am only > > >>>>>>>> making $1-$2/day , and I am using Admob + Greystripe.. > > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Kevin Duffey <andjar...@gmail.com > > >>>>>>>> > wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>> I am interested in this as well. First, Moto.. $150 a day? Holy > > >>>>>>>>> crap! I'd love to have that much 7 days a week coming in. That > > >>>>>>>>> would > > >>>>>>>>> supplement my income nicely. :) Second, slightly off topic, but > > >>>>>>>>> directly > > >>>>>>>>> related to revenue.. with that much coming in, or say even more > > >>>>>>>>> if you had > > >>>>>>>>> like $1000 a day coming in, what do you do about income taxes? I > > >>>>>>>>> was told by > > >>>>>>>>> some that google doesn't send any money making info to IRS.. so > > >>>>>>>>> essentially > > >>>>>>>>> there is no way for IRS or any tax/government to track how much > > >>>>>>>>> you make. I > > >>>>>>>>> am probably a long ways off from earning $1 a day.. but I am > > >>>>>>>>> curious how you > > >>>>>>>>> handle this issue. Is it on faith that you pay taxes... and mind > > >>>>>>>>> you, you > > >>>>>>>>> can shoot a private email if this is something that you wouldn't > > >>>>>>>>> want to > > >>>>>>>>> make public. :) I am not trying to cheat the IRS out of money by > > >>>>>>>>> any means.. > > >>>>>>>>> I would rather be legit... but am interested in how this is done. > > >>>>>>>>> Living in > > >>>>>>>>> California I already lose half my paycheck to taxes between state > > >>>>>>>>> and > > >>>>>>>>> federal. > > > >>>>>>>>> The ads that are done in games, don't they have to be clicked on > > >>>>>>>>> to > > >>>>>>>>> earn money? You said you have 60,000 users, do a lot of them > > >>>>>>>>> click the ads > > >>>>>>>>> while playing a game? Or even in a splash screen or game-over > > >>>>>>>>> screen? Or do > > >>>>>>>>> you earn money just by showing the ad? I would hope both.. clicks > > >>>>>>>>> == more > > >>>>>>>>> money, showing == very little. But if you get nothing from > > >>>>>>>>> displaying the > > >>>>>>>>> ad.. that seems ridiculous... because you are advertising for > > >>>>>>>>> that ad.. the > > >>>>>>>>> user is seeing that ad.. even if they don't click it, it may > > >>>>>>>>> trigger them > > >>>>>>>>> later to look it up, etc. If you do make some money off of each ad > > >>>>>>>>> displayed... how does it work? I mean, you could write a robot > > >>>>>>>>> app that made > > >>>>>>>>> it seem like 10's of 1000's of people were at least seeing the > > >>>>>>>>> ad. There > > >>>>>>>>> must be some way that admob and others avoid "cheating" and > > >>>>>>>>> losing money. > > > >>>>>>>>> Lastly, I thought things like admob required an ad all the time? > > >>>>>>>>> You can control when/where you display it? I thought admob was a > > >>>>>>>>> small > > >>>>>>>>> banner ad at the bottom of the screen all the time.. and it's > > >>>>>>>>> sdk/api > > >>>>>>>>> controlled how often an ad was displayed? What level of control > > >>>>>>>>> do you have > > >>>>>>>>> over say.. putting ads during game play, or just on the splash > > >>>>>>>>> screen and > > >>>>>>>>> end-game/high score screens? As well, how targeted are the ads? > > >>>>>>>>> Do you send > > >>>>>>>>> data to admob about the user playing the game that helps them > > >>>>>>>>> target ads? > > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks. > > > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 6:50 AM, Ahmed majaat > > >>>>>>>>> <amaj...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>> try this, > > >>>>>>>>>>http://www.aditic.com/demo, it may helps you to improve your CTR > > >>>>>>>>>> and > > >>>>>>>>>> Revenue. > > > >>>>>>>>>> They have more ad formats, splashscreen, interstial, 2/3 banner, > > >>>>>>>>>> strech banner and more for Android. > > > >>>>>>>>>> Just for your information I used intro/splashscreen Banner and > > >>>>>>>>>> retractable banner, my CTR is around 0.67. > > > >>>>>>>>>> Ahmed, > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 16, 2:22 am, Wayne Wenthin <wa...@fuligin.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> > There is AdWhirl that will allow you to serve up from different > > >>>>>>>>>> providers. > > >>>>>>>>>> > I have not tried it yet but since I have both admob, which was > > >>>>>>>>>> doing very > > >>>>>>>>>> > well for me, and Mobclix I may try to do them both. I found it > > >>>>>>>>>> interesting > > >>>>>>>>>> > that while keeping the ad rotation interval the same between > > >>>>>>>>>> > the > > >>>>>>>>>> two I was > > >>>>>>>>>> > serving around 30K impression with mobclix and about 17K with > > >>>>>>>>>> admob. > > >>>>>>>>>> > My CTR on admob was significantly higher. Now that I switched > > >>>>>>>>>> back to admob > > >>>>>>>>>> > I found a "glitch" that I had not noticed before and wonder if > > >>>>>>>>>> my mobclix > > >>>>>>>>>> > CTR could have been better. Its actually encouraging to know > > >>>>>>>>>> that at > > >>>>>>>>>> > least some money is being made out there. I racked up 48 > > >>>>>>>>>> > bucks > > >>>>>>>>>> for the > > >>>>>>>>>> > last week in january and have about twice as many users now so > > ... > > read more » -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. 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