Every time I cross the needs of my target customers, Google's
architecture supports meeting those needs, specifically background
processes. Just because a child is using their phone, does not mean
you don't need to find them.

Sometimes I wonder if Google has struck through the 'accessible' part
of their mantra. In every successful step I am aware of the
incremental cost to the user was negligible, or an actual savings
(free email with storage, etc).

I have not seen an android capable device that the people I know could
afford.

... some Google guy hinted [joked?] that an android phone does not
even need a screen at all.

...They are working with a voice company.

Anyway, I have not seen an android capable device that the people I
know could afford.

On Jun 25, 5:56 am, YA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Shane:
>
> you can do what these guys did.
>
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9976405-7.html?part=rss&subj=news&t...
>
> YA
>
> On Jun 24, 9:19 pm, Shane Isbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > If we are still sitting with an alpha SDK, it's increasingly unlikely
> > that the Android platform is close to being certified on devices; the
> > news that handsets may be delayed until next year doesn't surprise me.
>
> > As for individual developers being squeezed out of the market, that is
> > exactly what is happening. Google is not releasing their SDK to the
> > general community and has chosen a select group of software vendors.
> > This hurts acceptance by the general mobile developer community, after
> > all if we are going to be on the outside, shouldn't we be on the
> > outside of a market that already exists. We know that carriers and
> > other players are not going to change their behavior based on
> > technology alone, so Google was the best hope of being an agent of
> > change but in the end they fell back on the established, insider way
> > of doing things in mobile.
>
> > With the industry endorsing LBS applications through the results of
> > ADC I (while still saying that the Android location API is optional
> > and subject to be locked), we are left knowing the dangers that await
> > the individual developers.
>
> > I can say that this SDK decision has hurt development of SAM, the
> > SlideME application manager, as we wait to see what security surrounds
> > application installs. This will give a very good indication about the
> > openness of the platform and whether independent parties are going to
> > be able to freely do application installation or whether the carriers
> > will be able to lock down this functionality. Our original intention
> > was to build a large enough community that carriers wouldn't want to
> > ignore SAM.
>
> > The entire Android developer community has not exterted anywhere near
> > that type of muscle and have even been sheepish when it comes to
> > insider access to the Android SDK. I can assure you that carriers are
> > not being quiet about what they want, even forceful, and it is human
> > nature to listen to the person crying the loudest.
>
> > Shane
>
> > On Jun 23, 7:01 pm, JP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > The WSJ has an article today about the state of the affairs in the
> > > Android 
> > > empire.http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB121418837707895947.html?mod=2_...
> > > Looks like the journalists made a number of phone calls and did not
> > > just regurgitate some blogs - some solid insights into carriers and
> > > developers' current situation, it seems. I have the following
> > > takeaways from the article:
> > > - For app developers, there is a world of two speeds. If you got "in"
> > > through the Challenge or some other relationship, you already have
> > > access to information about the next SDK, draft release notes at the
> > > minimum, probably the SDK itself. Nothing in sight to the public
> > > though. Or did I miss something? The WeatherChannel developer anyways
> > > indirectly confirms this, which means they are getting a headstart to
> > > implement the necessary changes to their apps, while everybody else
> > > has to sit and wait.
> > > - Carriers are busy branding "their" Android. Worst case, we can
> > > expect subsidized-only phones a la iPhone, which only include apps
> > > which made it on the inside track, while independent developers cannot
> > > load and test theirs (superficial carrier explanation here: copy Steve
> > > Jobs excuses of yore). The first batches of Android phones will
> > > certainly come with aggressive SIM locks - no question in my mind, but
> > > I might be proven wrong.
> > > It'll be interesting to see however if enthusiasts can flash these
> > > suckers from clean Android images without too much trouble. Sans SIM
> > > lock, sans branding, but I suspect special service cables will be
> > > needed which are not available to the public. Needless to say that
> > > we'll be told we'll burn in hell (or worse) if we choose to pursue
> > > this.
>
> > > Overall... question marks keep piling up for independent developers.
> > > Looks like we are getting squeezed out of the race to market? Perhaps
> > > some clarifying words by the developer advocates at Google might give
> > > us some pointers (wink, wink)?
>
> > > JP
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