Hello all,

Sorry for the web silence!...
I was in Paris for a professionnal meeting about web 2.0 with Louis
Nauges... Very very good and intersting!!! This meeting confirmed me
that my idea is a good one and that I have to launch a project for a
web application... That will be optimised for google android (or maybe
fennec...?)

I have created the project maxcom and I hope that I can count on you
to help me in finding the best to offer autistic people (and maybe
others...) a good way to communicate!

See you on maxcode!

Vincent

On 16 oct, 08:15, "Muthu Ramadoss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Web Applications running without the Web. Now that's innovation.
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 8:57 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Someone was kind enough to reply to the feature request and explain
> > that web apps can have a desktop icon on an android phone  and run
> > with no internet connection via gears today.  Yes, a web app.
>
> > On Oct 15, 1:41 pm, Vincent Vatelot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hello all,
>
> > > Thanks Tauno for your work!
> > > I have a problem with my computer and I could not try this!
>
> > > I have a business trip, but I come back to work harder on this project
> > > as soon as possible...
>
> > > Vincent
>
> > > On 14 oct, 20:34, blindfold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > That's a nice quick job, Tauno! Good starting point for further work
> > > > by those willing to take it up. Thanks! Indeed it was not so easy to
> > > > exit the app but I suppose that was intentional given the intended
> > > > user base (but adb uninstall com.speakease worked miracles).
>
> > > > Regards
>
> > > > On Oct 14, 5:16 pm, Tauno T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > (Sorry if it's a double-post)
>
> > > > > I ported SpeakEase to Android and added touch support to it so you
> > can
> > > > > test how it "feels" :)
> > > > > The code is basically a straight port and it's really ugly but it
> > > > > should work.
> > > > > Oh, I also made it so that it'll replace the home screen.. so you
> > > > > can't exit it easily and do other stuff with your phone :) (you can
> > > > > still hold down the home button and access other things from there...
> > > > > sadly :) )
>
> > > > > Grab it fromhttp://tauntz.pri.ee/SpeakEase/SpeakEase.zip
>
> > > > > Tauno
>
> > > > > On Oct 14, 12:14 pm, Vincent Vatelot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > Thanks blindfold!
>
> > > > > > I have just tried the speakease project on my phone... It is
> > > > > > approximatively what I would like to do! :)
> > > > > > 1- I do not know how to add images/sounds and how to manage images,
> > > > > > sounds and categories... I checked the code, and it seems easy to
> > do,
> > > > > > but for my parents who do not have any computing skills...!
> > > > > > 2- I would like to go further and make it easier to use: When the
> > > > > > program is in use, the user can note use other program... In that
> > way,
> > > > > > the phone can not be used for other things (music, playing
> > game...).
> > > > > > In my little brother case, I know that if he can play with the
> > phone,
> > > > > > he will not use it correctly...
> > > > > > 3- I need a touchscreen and I do not know if speakease works well
> > with
> > > > > > touchscreen! :)
>
> > > > > > Very good example!! Thanks a lot!
>
> > > > > > Vincent
>
> > > > > > On Oct 14, 10:24 am, Vincent Vatelot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Visual Thesaurus is very interesting! I did not know it, and it
> > gave
> > > > > > > me another idea on the functionnal organisation: The labels could
> > be
> > > > > > > organized with tags and not by categories... But this is just an
> > idea!
>
> > > > > > > I know that the best thing would be to have a web based platform:
> > > > > > > Accessible from anywhere, easy to manage... But I do not want
> > this
> > > > > > > becomes a problem: Need an internet connection (google
> > gears??...),
> > > > > > > connected to internet -> low autonomy...
>
> > > > > > > I have basic knowledge in php/sql, but I think that will not be
> > > > > > > enough...
>
> > > > > > > I am going to create a project on google code...
>
> > > > > > > Vincent
>
> > > > > > > On Oct 14, 8:46 am, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Have you looked at visual thesaurus? It shows words, their
> > > > > > > > relationships, and provides a recorded voice speaking the word.
> > If you
> > > > > > > > enter a verb, like go, you get lots of choices.
>
> > > > > > > > There might be something there to use as reference:
>
> > > > > > > >http://www.visualthesaurus.com/
>
> > > > > > > > Android phones should have very good support of web apps as it
> > is not
> > > > > > > > in Google's model to to drive to a single hardware platform.
>
> > > > > > > > On Oct 13, 4:17 pm, Vincent Vatelot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > Hello all,
>
> > > > > > > > > So, I am going to explain a little more what I have in my
> > head...
>
> > > > > > > > > My little brother, Maxime, is 21 years old. He doesn't speak
> > and has
> > > > > > > > > never spoken. He has his own perception of the world but he
> > is
> > > > > > > > > sociable and he understand everything we tell him.
>
> > > > > > > > > However, he is not independant and he still lives with my
> > parents. He
> > > > > > > > > is very calm and can stay focus on a task if he is
> > interested. He
> > > > > > > > > loves everything that makes lights and sounds! It is not
> > difficult for
> > > > > > > > > him to use a computer, and for exemple, he is very good when
> > playing
> > > > > > > > > computer games...!
>
> > > > > > > > > When he was younger, he had a system of labels which were
> > attached to
> > > > > > > > > his trouser. When he wanted something, he asked with his
> > labels...
> > > > > > > > > Very good idea, and he managed it well, but there were more
> > and more
> > > > > > > > > labels, and it became difficult to continue with that!
>
> > > > > > > > > Then, he tried a vocal synthesis. It was a kind of box (40cm
> > x 20cm x
> > > > > > > > > 3cm and about 1kg... Sorry, I am french ;) ) There were about
> > 50
> > > > > > > > > labels on this box and when he pushed a label, there was a
> > predifined
> > > > > > > > > sound (for exemple, to say "hello, my name is Maxime...")...
> > Very good
> > > > > > > > > idea too, but not easy to use at all!
>
> > > > > > > > > Finally, he tried B.A.bar 
> > > > > > > > > (http://www.fst.ch/babar/).<http://www.fst.ch/babar/%29.>..
> > Another vocal
> > > > > > > > > synthesis based on the usage of barcode... A word is
> > associated to a
> > > > > > > > > barcode, and you have to scan it to speak... This is not a
> > good idea
> > > > > > > > > for my brother who spent his time playing with the light of
> > the
> > > > > > > > > scanner and recording various sounds!...
>
> > > > > > > > > I first wanted to develop an application who was based on the
> > labels
> > > > > > > > > and the first vocal synthesis principle, but more
> > user-friendly... I
> > > > > > > > > thought about a pocket-pc, but this is a closed platform, and
> > I do not
> > > > > > > > > have knowledge in .net... I would like to have a product that
> > would be
> > > > > > > > > small, simple... for both user and administrator... Here are
> > the
> > > > > > > > > functionnalities I thought about:
>
> > > > > > > > >    1. A simple interface that allows to associate pictures
> > (or words)
> > > > > > > > > to sounds, ordered by categories and easily accessible (touch
> > screen
> > > > > > > > > and big pictures...)
> > > > > > > > >    2. The plateform would have to be locked on restricted
> > applications
> > > > > > > > > (no way to use it as a recorder or game, or other thing...)
> > > > > > > > >    3. An easy admin interface that would allow administrator
> > to manage
> > > > > > > > > sounds, pictures, words, categories...
> > > > > > > > >    4. Why not developping an application that could call a
> > phone
> > > > > > > > > number in case of emergency (home...) so that he could try to
> > make
> > > > > > > > > things by himself...
> > > > > > > > >    5. And finally, but that's complitely hypothetical,
> > develop an
> > > > > > > > > application that could synthetize a voice from the sounds he
> > can make
> > > > > > > > > with his own voice (laugh, cry...) I am not sure this is
> > possible to
> > > > > > > > > make it, but I hope so...
>
> > > > > > > > > So... I think I have summerized everything... Do you thing I
> > should
> > > > > > > > > propose a project? I am able to lead it, but I am not sure
> > about the
> > > > > > > > > way to do it...
>
> > > > > > > > > Thanks for your advice
>
> > > > > > > > > Vincent
>
> > > > > > > > > On 13 oct, 01:49, Danny Pimienta <
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > I am interested in this idea as well, I am a novice
> > developer with a 7
> > > > > > > > > > year old autistic son.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Oct 12, 2008, at 7:45 PM, Filipe Abrantes
>
> > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi Vincent,
>
> > > > > > > > > > > If your idea is useful, I'm interested in putting some
> > effort on it.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Could you present the idea a bit more in detail, explain
> > how it helps
> > > > > > > > > > > autists and why android is the right platform to do it.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > > Filipe
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Vincent Vatelot wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >> Hello all,
>
> > > > > > > > > > >> My little brother is autistic and I would like to find a
> > ay to help
> > > > > > > > > > >> him to communicate with other people. He understands
> > very well, and
> > > > > > > > > > >> he
> > > > > > > > > > >> has tried several mehod of commuication.
>
> > > > > > > > > > >> I am sure that he could use a platform like google
> > android to
> > > > > > > > > > >> communicate. I have thinked about the solution and I
> > have got my
> > > > > > > > > > >> idea,
> > > > > > > > > > >> but I am not able to realise it... I have not enough
> > knowledge in the
> > > > > > > > > > >> field of programming...
>
> > > > > > > > > > >> 1- Has anyone ideas on applications that could help
> > autistic (or
> > > > > > > > > > >> other
> > > > > > > > > > >> handicaped people...) to communicate?
> > > > > > > > > > >> 2- Is there anyone here who would be interested to work
> > on me on the
> > > > > > > > > > >> idea I have?
>
> > > > > > > > > > >> Thanks a lot...
>
> > > > > > > > > > >> Vincent
>
> --
> take care,
> Muthu Ramadoss.
>
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