All good questions, nobody has a clue to what the answers are and Google's
not talking. That's the difference between an open source project and 800
megabytes of code wrapped up in an open source license and tossed over a
wall...

(This doubtless won't make it onto the android-discuss list, since I was
"moderated" by Dan Morrill for actually attempting to discuss things
there...)

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:45 AM, rp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> You know, even for someone like myself (who does develop and does plan
> to do some application development on the Android), this is a good
> question. Where do we go if we want to see changes in the basic look
> and feel of menus, or options added in for contacts, etc. In other
> words, how do the changes we developers make end up making into the
> next generation of Android phones?
>
> On Nov 17, 2:23 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This is from the point of view of an Android user. As in, an end user.
> > I don't develop, and I wasn't planning on it. However, from my
> > knowledge of the open source community (in general), I felt it was
> > probably best to take some of the confusion being experienced by end
> > users to here, the community of what I assume is the developers (if
> > there's even a difference).
> >
> > I've come to realize that it's a misconception that Android is a
> > Google product. Google started it, and they support it, but it's
> > actually developed by the Open Handset Alliance. Except when it's
> > being developed by random people who downloaded the source. In other
> > words, Android has all the characteristics of a classic open source
> > project: the community interaction makes it turn out great, but when
> > users want something, nobody knows who to talk to.
> >
> > Except it IS a Google product, according to the Google-riffic brand
> > guideline page (http://www.android.com/branding.html). And of course
> > it's by Google, because there's Gmail, Google Talk, Google Accounts,
> > and Google Search integrated with practically everything. In fact, the
> > G1 says "with Google" on the back! So of course we need to talk to
> > Google if we, as end users, want to see changes made to Android's core
> > services that we feel would improve it.
> >
> > So, where exactly IS Google in all this? I've searched (with Google)
> > all around the web to try and find out who's the key members are in
> > their Android department, and I can't even tell if they HAVE an
> > Android department.
> >
> > That makes sense, though. Because this is an open source project, and
> > the community develops it, why would it be in the hands of one
> > corporation? So just talk to the community. Except Google pushed,
> > marketed, and branded the whole thing by themselves, so consumers and
> > end users and people who don't know how to compile the kernel to save
> > their lives assume that they're in charge of it. Except they're not.
> > Except when they are.
> >
> > So, long story short, all of us early adopters with our snazzy new
> > G1s, we like our phones and we love the little green robot inside of
> > them, but there are some things we'd like to be improved as time goes
> > on. If those things are software-related, not hardware or network
> > related, then we don't talk to T-Mobile, we talk to the Android
> > developers, right? Because Android is open and free and that means
> > changes can be attempted much more rapidly and easily. Well, where are
> > they? Is it someone at Google? Is it people on these discussion
> > boards? Or is it a different person at a different OHA member
> > depending on what specific component our concern is with?
> >
> > Again, I'm an end user who has no idea how the internal structure of
> > Android works, so I'm probably wrong about a lot and confused for no
> > reason about several other things. But Google (or whoever) has made it
> > clear (maybe) that they don't want Android to be a niche product for
> > programmers to tinker with, they want it to be a revolutionary OS that
> > will turn all of our phones into the little tiny personal computers
> > that they actually are. So now that idiots like us are being included
> > in the target market, can we perhaps have some clarification about who
> > we're supposed to go to for questions, suggestions, and comments?
>
> >
>


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