(moved to -discuss at per request on -developers). Sorry, you're wrong.
The only people I know who are aware of what root means in a computing context only know about it because of their day jobs, any very few of them actually want to use a "terminal window". Yes consumers want more functionality, but they want it with an intuitive GUI, and many won't even try anything on a phone that requires typing a command. This isn't limited to 'phones, when was the last five times you think a non-techie relative of yours opened up a command prompt on their copy of Windows? For people wishing to do mash-ups, etc. there is the SDK which can create deployable apps, but as for *consumer* 'phones like the G1 the focus is far more on ease of use than allowing people to mess around with it, and to me that is correct. If you want a 'phone that you can hack to your hearts content you should look for a developers phone like the Dev Phone 1, you shouldn't be looking at a consumer targeted phone like the G1. Al. [email protected] wrote: > The phone mindset is wrong, consumers are not like they were in the > 80's, now the average user is quickly growing into a "terminal window" > and root access. The kid's are into mashing everything just look at > the sites they make on facebook. Not only are they comfortable with > terminal windows and root access but they can code. > > Phones for dummy's is old school. It for a time when nerds were > uncool and users were computer illiterate. The world has changed but > the telecom mindset has not.... > > - V > > On Dec 21, 5:50 pm, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I'd prefer to see more Android 'phones in the hands of users than to see >> every Android phone have a developer mode. >> >> The G1 is a consumer device and should be designed as such (including >> things like minimising/eliminating the possibility for users to brick >> the device by using a home-brew firmware). The DP1 is the dev 'phone >> which you can brick to your hearts content if you so wish. >> >> Yes it's annoying that the DP1 was only announced after many of us had >> bought G1s, yes it would be nice to have a G1 that we could use like a >> DP1, but that's not the main purpose the G1 is designed to serve. >> >> Al. >> >> >> >> [email protected] wrote: >> >>> Hi Thanks for responding, sorry for posting in the wrong place but >>> this is the group that's impacted. I think the open community can >>> respond possibly using a open source license that does not allow >>> "TIVO" style hardware lock-down. In addition Google can provide >>> certification programs that require device manufacturers to >>> demonstrate open implementations of Android in order to use the >>> Android logo. Last Google could market their "unlocked" developer >>> phone for general use. >>> >>> ps. is your book available yet? I just looked at your website, good >>> luck with your business model. >>> >>> On Dec 21, 10:37 am, Mark Murphy <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> First, this sort of topic belongs on [android-discuss], since this list >>>> is for assistance on application development. >>>> >>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>> >>>>> Please do not allow the carriers to lock the phones down. >>>>> >>>> Android is licensed under the Apache License 2.0. Hardware manufacturers >>>> and carriers can do what they wish within the confines of that license. >>>> >>>> If you want to complain about locked-down phones, complain to carriers >>>> and device makers. Hope that some innovative device makers make devices >>>> that are not locked down, and that the market rewards them for it. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy)http://commonsware.com >>>> _The Busy Coder's Guide to Android Development_ Version 1.9 Published! >>>> >> -- >> ====== >> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the >> company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, >> 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. >> >> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not >> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's >> subsidiaries. >> > > > -- ====== Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's subsidiaries. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
