No I am not leaving the platform ... I am stating that I will not be buying
any more "Paid-apps" until the situation changes/improves....  which I am
hoping (not holding my breathe) for....

If paid apps can (without rooting) be save to the SDcard then that would fix
one issue...
But I dont think that google will make that possible ... if they do
"Wahoooo !"



On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Disconnect <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have, in fact, changed phones. "My downloads" is stored on the server.
> Protected storage on SD is a reasonable place for paid apps (encrypted is
> an important word! Thats why i used it.)
> Any time you have to say "well this seems like absolutely the worst thing
> they could do" chances are very good you have misunderstood something.
>
> But didn't you end by saying you were leaving the platform? The line for
> iphones forms to the left, no pushing, have fun, ttyl.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 2:48 PM, James Clements <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Lets go point by point to what you say are a *ton* of "*Mostly-Wrong*" 
>> *Assumptions
>> *:
>>
>> 1.)
>>
>> ..yes? Just like every free app. Go to "my downloads" in market.
>> >>> You have not lost your phone or had it stolen ... if you are working
>> with
>> your original phone and original gmail account ... then a restore  to the
>> same phone is OK .... That is not the case if " phone is
>> damaged/lost/stolen " 2.)
>> ...how does that follow? The encrypted-loopback device would work just as
>> well for commercial apps as non. Nice try though, it is ALMOST reasonable if
>> you close your eyes, refuse to do any research, and hum you country's
>> national anthem really loud..
>> >>>  Since Google is storing the paid apps in a private-locked directory
>> ...their intent is to prevent  the apps from being copied ... just like they
>> root is locked to prevent changes... So It
>>      doesn't take convoluted reasoning to know that they would not place
>> these apps on the SDCard ... and have place them in protected memory in the
>> /Data directory and not onto the SDCard...  Maybe you dont get "the Backup
>> of apps not being possible under the current configuration"  unless you have
>> a rooted phone ... which the masses of phone owners DONT!!
>> 3.)
>>   ...That might be a hint that you are wrong, then.
>>   >>> this reasoning doesn't even need any defense because you have not
>> made a statement that changes the Statement premise ... " For me this is a
>> serious limit ...."  this is neither an "assumption" nor "Mostly-Wrong" ...
>> 4.)
>>      >>>> " *IF*  this ...."
>>    >>>  you didn't  make any viable point as to how this was
>> "mostly-wrong" or even an "assumption"
>>
>> So None of your points have merit nor do they indicate that I have made
>> "wrong-Assumptions"
>> Your opinions are just that ...Opinions ...  In Items 1.) & 2.) above,
>> you have not given any
>> facts that refute my points as being false ... or just merely opinions
>> ...since what I
>> stated is the current state of affairs with this platform  regarding
>> memory and backups..
>>
>> Items 3 & 4 are mute because both are what my intentions and feelings
>> are... and therefore
>> are not even Assumptions in the first place ....
>>
>> Thanks for your input though...
>>
>>   On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Disconnect 
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> You are making a ton of mostly-wrong assumptions. But sure, it makes a
>>> better "story" that way...
>>>
>>>  On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 10:28 AM, justjimjpc <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> So are we to assume that Google is maintaining these special folders
>>>> in the "cloud" somewhere so they can be reinstalled in the event your
>>>> phone is damaged/lost/stolen ... ???
>>>>
>>>
>>> ..yes? Just like every free app. Go to "my downloads" in market.
>>>
>>>
>>>> This would also go to indicate that Google will NEVER allow these apps
>>>> to be installed and run from the SDCard... (for a non-rooted
>>>> phone) ...
>>>>
>>>
>>> ..how does that follow? The encrypted-loopback device would work just as
>>> well for commercial apps as non. Nice try though, it is ALMOST reasonable if
>>> you close your eyes, refuse to do any research, and hum you country's
>>> national anthem really loud..
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> For me this is serious limit to the future value of the G1... It makes
>>>> no sense to fatally limit/cripple the phone to this degree.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That might be a hint that you are wrong, then.
>>>
>>>  *IF* this does turn out to be the case then it will finish my brief
>>>> affair with Android. I like the platform but the current handsets do
>>>> not have enough internal storage to be considered a practical device
>>>> for applications that in all eventuality will become more space
>>>> demanding.
>>>>
>>>
>>> OK bye now, have a nice one.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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