I`ve started this, because I want to show that these features are important,
but this is about me and is offtopic, so please let we stay on the topic!

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> It's well known that everyone wants those features, and I'd be highly
> surprised if anyone at Google turned around and said they didn't know
> everyone wants it, so the issue of whether people want those features
> isn't in question.
>
> You've started what you believe is a process to get those features and
> so those people who support your efforts by doing as you ask.
>
> Al.
>
> vendor wrote:
> > This is not about supporting me. It is about supporting these features.
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Al Sutton <[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >     Neither of the links in your first post to this list sent me to your
> >     support forum vote.
> >
> >     There is also the possibility that others have accepted what's
> >     happening
> >     and don't feel that supporting you will give any tangible benefit.
> >
> >     Al.
> >
> >     vendor wrote:
> >     > I am trying, but it is hard. I was originally posting this topic in
> >     > another google group. JBQ told me it will be better to post it
> >     here -
> >     > I did it and that`s why there are multiple topics...
> >     >
> >     > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Al Sutton <[email protected]
> >     <mailto:[email protected]>
> >     > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >     Great. Now I would suggest you point developers there instead
> of
> >     >     trying
> >     >     to run multiple simultaneous votes.
> >     >
> >     >     Al.
> >     >
> >     >     vendor wrote:
> >     >     > The same topic is located there too
> >     >     > ->
> >     >
> >
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=077d19f31873da3f&hl=en
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=077d19f31873da3f&hl=en
> >
> >     >
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=077d19f31873da3f&hl=en
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=077d19f31873da3f&hl=en
> >>
> >     >     >
> >     >
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=077d19f31873da3f&hl=en
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=077d19f31873da3f&hl=en
> >
> >     >
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=077d19f31873da3f&hl=en
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=077d19f31873da3f&hl=en
> >>>
> >     >     >
> >     >     > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Al Sutton
> >     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> - Show quoted text -
> >     >     <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> >     >     - Show quoted text -
> >     - Show quoted text -
> >     >     > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> >     <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>> wrote:
> >     >     >
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     It's not easy for someone to say "There will be such
> >     feature for
> >     >     >     ADP1".
> >     >     >     JBQ has already made it clear that in his job he
> >     doesn't have
> >     >     >     oversight
> >     >     >     over the complete 1.1 build, functionality plans, and
> >     >     release dates.
> >     >     >     These probably limited to certain groups (if they
> >     exist at all).
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     It seems pretty clear by now that the people from
> >     Google on
> >     >     this list
> >     >     >     are the engineers who are answering questions when
> >     they can.
> >     >     This
> >     >     >     isn't
> >     >     >     a hangout for all Google Android employees, this isn't a
> >     >     list that
> >     >     >     Google see as a place to answer developers questions
> >     on any
> >     >     and all
> >     >     >     Android topics, and this isn't a place where any kind
> >     of vote,
> >     >     >     protest,
> >     >     >     or anything similar is going to get noticeable results.
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     If you want to report something to Google then the
> >     Market forums
> >     >     >     seem to
> >     >     >     be as close as we can get to the best channel to do this.
> >     >     The URL is;
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     Al.
> >     >     >     - Show quoted text -
> >     >     >
> >     >     >
> >     >     >
> >     >     >     vendor wrote:
> >     >     >     > They are working on APD 1.1 . We know a little about
> >     this
> >     >     update. It
> >     >     >     > is like RC 33, but for ADP , but there are still
> >     questions and
> >     >     >     JBQ did
> >     >     >     > not confirm the feature "protected/paid apps". It`s
> easy
> >     >     someone
> >     >     >     from
> >     >     >     > google to say: "There will be such feature for ADP1"
> >     and this
> >     >     >     > discussion is over, but until then...
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     A even simpler method would be to have each dev
> sign
> >     >     their APKs
> >     >     >     >     with a
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     license key (think google maps style), which, when
> >     >     purchased
> >     >     >     would
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     store the key on the user's account. When run (or
> >     >     installed)
> >     >     >     the APK
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     can call to the server and see if the current user
> >     >     actually
> >     >     >     has that
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     key in their user account, else, it will not allow
> >     >     >     installation. Same
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     concept, but does not even need encryption.
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > This method is good when the app needs constant
> >     >     >     > internet connection like the Maps, but for other
> >     apps like
> >     >     games and
> >     >     >     > etc, this is not a solution, because they will be
> >     >     "pinging" the
> >     >     >     server
> >     >     >     > to check every time for the keys. But anyway there
> >     are more
> >     >     >     solutions
> >     >     >     > suitable for better security and ADP 1. Just have to be
> >     >     implemented.
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     > P.S. There is one feature which affects all users and
> it
> >     >     is the
> >     >     >     > problem that you can install apps only in the main
> >     memory
> >     >     which
> >     >     >     is not
> >     >     >     > enough
> >     >     >     > ->
> >     >     >
> >     >
> >
> http://groups.google.com/group/android-platform/browse_thread/thread/803fe73023a24536/
> >     >     >     > One solution is to make virtual partition and etc.
> >     and by
> >     >     making a
> >     >     >     > virtual partition for this problem, the above one
> >     will be
> >     >     solved
> >     >     >     > almost automatically.
> >     >     >     > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Al Sutton
> >     >     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> >     <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> >     >     >     <mailto:[email protected]
> >     <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
> >     <mailto:[email protected]>>>
> >     >     >     > <mailto:[email protected]
> >     <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
> >     <mailto:[email protected]>>
> >     >     <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> >     <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>>> wrote:
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     They're already working on this (as JBQ has said on
> >     >     numerous
> >     >     >     >     occasions)
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     Voting will not make things magically happen,
> >     waiting
> >     >     is all you
> >     >     >     >     can do.
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     Al.
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     - Show quoted text -
> >     >     - Show quoted text -
> >     >     >     >     vendor.net <http://vendor.net>
> >     <http://vendor.net> <http://vendor.net>
> >     >     <http://vendor.net> wrote:
> >     >     >     >     > Please vote for +1 if you agree that google
> >     should do
> >     >     >     something to
> >     >     >     >     > allow developers with ADP1 to access the paid and
> >     >     >     protected apps and
> >     >     >     >     > finally to release the new firmware we all are
> >     >     waiting for
> >     >     >     ADP 1.1 .
> >     >     >     >     > In meantime we can help each others when we
> >     disable
> >     >     the "copy
> >     >     >     >     > protection" in our free apps at the store with
> >     the logo
> >     >     >     *ADP OPEN*
> >     >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     > You can see these topics as well:
> >     >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >
> >     >
> >
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=22e4b0e8eda7c51e&hl=en
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=22e4b0e8eda7c51e&hl=en
> >
> >     >
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=22e4b0e8eda7c51e&hl=en
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=22e4b0e8eda7c51e&hl=en
> >>
> >     >     >
> >     >
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=22e4b0e8eda7c51e&hl=en
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=22e4b0e8eda7c51e&hl=en
> >
> >     >
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=22e4b0e8eda7c51e&hl=en
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=22e4b0e8eda7c51e&hl=en
> >>>
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >
> >     >
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=22e4b0e8eda7c51e&hl=en
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=22e4b0e8eda7c51e&hl=en
> >
> >     >
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=22e4b0e8eda7c51e&hl=en
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=22e4b0e8eda7c51e&hl=en
> >>
> >     >     >
> >     >
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=22e4b0e8eda7c51e&hl=en
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=22e4b0e8eda7c51e&hl=en
> >
> >     >
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=22e4b0e8eda7c51e&hl=en
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=22e4b0e8eda7c51e&hl=en
> >>>>
> >     >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >
> >     >
> >
> http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/2b746b6bbf2b0e2e
> >     >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >
> >     >
> >
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=107185eea74e4005&hl=en
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=107185eea74e4005&hl=en
> >
> >     >
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=107185eea74e4005&hl=en
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=107185eea74e4005&hl=en
> >>
> >     >     >
> >     >
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=107185eea74e4005&hl=en
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=107185eea74e4005&hl=en
> >
> >     >
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=107185eea74e4005&hl=en
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=107185eea74e4005&hl=en
> >>>
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >
> >     >
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=107185eea74e4005&hl=en
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=107185eea74e4005&hl=en
> >
> >     >
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=107185eea74e4005&hl=en
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=107185eea74e4005&hl=en
> >>
> >     >     >
> >     >
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=107185eea74e4005&hl=en
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=107185eea74e4005&hl=en
> >
> >     >
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=107185eea74e4005&hl=en
> >     <
> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=107185eea74e4005&hl=en
> >>>>
> >     >     >     >     > >
> >     >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >
> >     >     >     >     --
> >     >     >     >
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> >     152-160 City Road, London,  EC1V 2NX, UK.
> >
> >     The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
> >     necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
> >     subsidiaries.
> >
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> >     - Show quoted text -
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