I'd like to see it when it comes out....
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Felipemnoa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Just one more thing off topic. My company is about to announce a new tool: > A java to objective-c translator. There is nothing there in our website > about this product yet but you should expect to see something there in a > couple of weeks at: http:\\www.noatechnologies.com > > On Mar 19, 2009, at 6:52 AM, Stoyan Damov <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Thanks Chris (and Incognito)! > > Yes, I know it's really *quite* off-topic on the android-discuss list, > and off-topic even for this thread, but couldn't help it! :) > > Cheers > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Chris Greening > <[email protected]> wrote: > > There was a big discussion about this on the iPhone forums. > > The conclusion was that Objective-C is find for most things. If you're > doing some number crunching on some complex data structures (e.g. > vectors/matrices etc) then you'll probably want to re-use your C++ > libraries. > > The interface to open GL is a C-API already. So there's no objective-C > overhead with calls to that. > > Mixing C++ and Objective-C works well - I've done it in my projects > and use the stl library to get good collection classes for native > types (the collection classes in Objective-C are great for Obj-C > objects but you have to box everything else). > > For doing the UI objective-C is the way to go - you can't really avoid > it as the entire UI kit is all objective-C. > > I'd recommend checking out Cocos2d > http://groups.google.co.uk/group/cocos2d-iphone-discuss > - that seems to be the library of choice for 2D games on the iPhone. > One of my non-developer background friends has started using it and > says that it's great. > > Anyway, this is a bit off topic for an Android discussion group! > > On 19 Mar, 10:27, Stoyan Damov <[email protected]> wrote: > Right. If I'm to write an arcade/action game for iPhone would you > suggest that I implement it in C++ (which is one of my day job's > languages, and in which I'm proficient) or I should go with > Objective-C since it's the language of choice for MacOS (which I > should re-learn)? Is Objective-C fast enough for action games? > > Thanks > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Incognito <[email protected]> wrote: > > Sorry never used any. They wanted me to pay money for the one I found, > don't remember name right now, will look them up. My apps were originally > written in C so all I did was to move that code to iPhone since it supports > C. > > On Mar 19, 2009, at 5:48 AM, Stoyan Damov <[email protected]> wrote: > > Would you care to mention at least one of them? Especially if you've > ever used it. > Thanks! > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Incognito <[email protected]> wrote: > > There are tools available to port your java code to Objective-C. That > should save you a huge amount of time. > > On Mar 19, 2009, at 5:04 AM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > > So many ideas, so little time...... > > Al. > > Incognito wrote: > Why not just develop for both instead of choosing sides? > > On Mar 18, 2009, at 2:30 PM, Pd <[email protected]> wrote: > > I must admit VOIP on (stock) android would be a killer app for me. I > could sell that 10,000 times over to our clients. My take on Apple vs > Android goes a bit like this: > > Commodore 64 - Sinclair spectrum > Commodore Amiga - Atari ST > PC - Mac > Android - iPhone > > I made a wise choice :-) > > Some are saying Google won't make it in the mobile space. TBH I don't > think they will have to with the new tech coming out with Android. The > G? is just a small feather in a big headdress :-) Android will be > everywhere and boy am I looking forward to the day :-) > > Pd. > > Al Sutton wrote: > I think the comparison table at > http://lifehacker.com/5173441/android-versus-iphone-30-the-showdown > gives a pretty good picture of how the iPhone OS update compares with > Android. > > Apple may be something of an anomaly in the mobile market, but it's a > popular anomaly that consumers seem to like. > > Al. > > fdimeglio wrote: > > You just dont understand the problem IMHO. Dont get me wrong, I am a > huge advocate of Android. > > With this new iPhone OS 3.0, Apple is giving more meat to both the > final users (consumers) and the developers. > > I think this is a great deal and Apple thru this wise move is just > trying to kill the competition right the way. We can say goodbye to > crappy basic phones, Blackberry OS, WinMo and others in a couple of > years as they are now just "followers". iPhone is right now way more > attractive to users and developers and this will increase a lot more > with iPhone OS 3.0. > > I am more concerned about Android right now and I would LOVE to see a > roadmap that can show how Android will be able to compete with the > iPhone OS. > > Saying that Apple is a "freak" in the mobile market shows that you > dont understand this market and stay in your mind with the old classic > mobile world which is now scheduled to die. > > Common Google, we really need to have a great response to this huge > threat and some roadmap elements. > > Fabrice > > On Mar 17, 3:19 pm, Israel Ferrer <[email protected]> wrote: > > Oh! > I was reading live the Keynote, and It was like a joke. I will explain > to all the audience my point of view. > First of all, Apple is out of the Mobile world. Why? There wasnt in > MWC09 at Barcelona, so Apple think that dont sell mobile. Apple sell > innovation and they know it. > Finally, I was reading and when It appear (cOPY & Paste) I was > seriously afraid. Why? Maybe Apple try to rename it like iCopy and > patent it, WOW danger ;P And what about Spotlight, WTH! Spotlight is > nothing more than a find engine... are you serious? > Apple is not a matter for the Mobile Market, Apple is the freak in the > Mobile Market. > But App Store and new SDK is the perfect machine to make MMORPG Like > second life, its the perfect business. Apple is doing great with the > App Store and SDK ;) > > http://and.roid.es > > El 17/03/2009, a las 23:03, Pd escribió: > > Just had the shock of my life! For a minute there I thought I was > in an > Android forum! ... Silly me! ;-) > > So if you can all trot over to the iPhone forums and mention the G1 > complete with the amazing Android OS that should make us just about > even :-) > > Avraham Serour wrote: > > I remember when I worked with brew, from the beginning they had > subscription and use based model, uses was based on an api, so the > application decided what a use mean, for example for a ringtone app > it > meant a ringtone was downloaded, for a game each time you entered the > game, or each time you played and so on.. even > I remember my company could offer the same game either for $x each > month or something like 4$x to own it, customer choice > > at the time they didn't have free apps though, don't know how the > brew > market today > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Stoyan Damov > <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > more here: > > http://www.macrumors.com/ > > I'm going to be one of the 1st to own it. Incredible smartphone. > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Al Sutton <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Highlights; > > - In-application purchasing and subscription purchases > - Devs can embed Google Maps in their apps (Yes, this is on the > > iPhone) > > - Turn by Turn directions can be accessed by any app, but they > > can't use > > the Google Map tiles for it. > - Data Push notification system as an alternative to background > > apps. > > - Peer to Peer connectivity using bluetooth without the need for > > pairing > > - Apps that can talk to custom hardware (e.g. A tuner for a FM > > Radio add-in) > > - In-game voice > - Cut & Paste (they've played catchup on that one :)). > - MMS > - Voice Memos > - Search that goes through contacts, emails, calendar appointments, > - Tethering support is supported but carriers control if it's > > enabled. > > Al. > > -- > > * Written an Android App? - List it athttp://andappstore.com/* > > ====== > Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the > company number 6741909. 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