I'm not offended. Is better than getting no feedback. As I said, you
either like it or don't like it.
I think you made your point a long time ago and you are really
preaching to the choir at this point.


On Apr 1, 2:51 pm, Ivan Soto <[email protected]> wrote:
> I wasn't talking talking about what you or consumers like in terms of genre,
> I was talking about quality. Plain, simple quality.
>
> I don't like sudoku (I actually hate it) but I can easily tell which
> developer took more than 2 minutes to create the graphics, or who has decent
> preferences screen, or which one is far more polished. I hope you get the
> point now.
>
> Sorry if I offended you Felipe, but you should be prepared to get even worse
> feedback than mine.
>
> Ivan Soto Fernandez
> Web Developerhttp://ivansotof.com
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Stoyan Damov <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Ivan,
>
> > Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
> > For example, for me, all sudoku games are crap, because I don't like
> > playing sudoku.
> > I don't like playing strategy games either, so any game in this
> > category will be by your definition overpriced, and not worth paying.
> > I love playing Duke Nukem, Quake and Unreal and my wife thinks they're
> > all crap. She loves games with bubbles, jewels, and the like. I don't
> > like them at all.
> > At this moment, you've probably realized that it doesn't matter what
> > you think is good/worth or bad/pricey/not worth.
>
> > Like Felipe said, the Market will sort this out by itself, so stop
> > pushing Felipe, it's insulting.
> > If I were him I'd cut you to pieces.
>
> > Cheers
>
> > On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Ivan Soto <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I know how it is, I was just pointing out that "us" developers must have
> > > some sort of self quality control when releasing applications since
> > Google
> > > is not offering a decent way to show features on the market (no
> > screenshots,
> > > short description).
>
> > > With overpriced applications (or applications that simply are not worth
> > > paying) you are just making end users not trust the market.
>
> > > Ivan Soto Fernandez
> > > Web Developer
> > >http://ivansotof.com
>
> > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Felipe (Noa Technologies)
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >> Ivan,
>
> > >> Is really hit or miss. Your either like it or don't like. That is the
> > >> price of an open market. If you want to control the quality of the
> > >> apps in the market then you have to have a close market like what the
> > >> phone operators have had until now. Seriously speaking I don't
> > >> understand what is the issue here. Natural market forces will decide
> > >> who are the winners and who are the loosers. The loosers will fall
> > >> into oblivion while the winners will rise to the top. That is the way
> > >> it has been, it is and will always be in an open market. There will
> > >> always be crap applications in an open market. Even if an application
> > >> or product is great there will still be people that think that the
> > >> application sucks. One example is the iPhone, there are a lot of
> > >> people that hate it and think that it is an inferior product, and yet
> > >> the market has decided to pick it as the winner.
>
> > >> My point is that it is pointless to complain about bad quality apps in
> > >> the market since they will most likely never succeed (if enough people
> > >> also think that the app is bad).
>
> > >> On Apr 1, 12:50 pm, Ivan Soto <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> > That's true, but I still see this kind of applications to be hurting
> > the
> > >> > market. I've seen a lot of applications released as paid applications
> > >> > hoping
> > >> > to just get a few sales.
>
> > >> > Ivan Soto Fernandez
> > >> > Web Developerhttp://ivansotof.com
>
> > >> > On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Felipe (Noa Technologies) <
>
> > >> > [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >> > > You are entitled to your opinion. The thing that I really disagree
> > is
> > >> > > the part that you say that it is a ripoff. People can return it if
> > >> > > they don't like it so I don't see how I'm ripping people off.
>
> > >> > > On Apr 1, 10:46 am, Ivan Soto <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> > > > Sorry to say this, but your game is the kind of applications that
> > is
> > >> > > hurting
> > >> > > > the market. I haven't even tried it but from just reading your
> > >> > > > comments I
> > >> > > > can see that the game wasn't tested enough, the icon doesn't have
> > >> > > > enough
> > >> > > > love, and your last comment
>
> > >> > > > "This is the first attempt so
> > >> > > > things can only get better from here. Well, time to start working
> > on
> > >> > > > the next game."
>
> > >> > > > Again, I don't have to see the game to realize that $5 is a
> > ripoff.
>
> > >> > > > Ivan Soto Fernandez
> > >> > > > Web Developerhttp://ivansotof.com
>
> > >> > > > On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Felipe (Noa Technologies) <
>
> > >> > > > [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >> > > > > I'll double check my information to make sure that I'm not
> > >> > > > > including
> > >> > > > > my phone number.
> > >> > > > > Thank you.
> > >> > > > > On Apr 1, 10:24 am, Streets Of Boston <[email protected]>
> > >> > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > Only your web-site, e-mail address and phone-number can show
> > up.
> > >> > > > > > But only if you explicitly provide this info in your app's
> > >> > > > > > publish-
> > >> > > > > > site (http://market.android.com/publish/Home, click on your
> > app
> > >> > > > > > and
> > >> > > > > > check your 'Contact Info' section).
>
> > >> > > > > > On Apr 1, 2:05 am, "Felipe (Noa Technologies)"
> > >> > > > > > <[email protected]
>
> > >> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > >> > > > > > > Hello All,
>
> > >> > > > > > > I checked cyrket and cannot see any of my personal
> > information
> > >> > > there
> > >> > > > > > > which is good.
> > >> > > > > > > Does the personal mail address of developers show up in the
> > >> > > > > > > android
> > >> > > > > > > market? If so, does anybody know how to prevent that?
>
> > >> > > > > > > On Mar 31, 4:30 pm, "Felipe (Noa Technologies)" <
> > >> > > [email protected]>
> > >> > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > >> > > > > > > > I can run it in my own developer phone. I had not tested
> > it
> > >> > > > > > > > on a
> > >> > > G1.
>
> > >> > > > > > > > On Mar 31, 4:27 pm, Streets Of Boston
> > >> > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > >> > > > > wrote:
>
> > >> > > > > > > > > What do you mean by
> > >> > > > > > > > >   "I assume she was able to get it running. That is the
> > >> > > > > > > > > thing
> > >> > > that
> > >> > > > > I
> > >> > > > > > > > > was worried the most" ?
>
> > >> > > > > > > > > You don't know if your app can be started/ran by
> > >> > > > > > > > > customers?
>
> > >> > > > > > > > > On Mar 31, 4:21 pm, "Felipe (Noa Technologies)" <
> > >> > > > > [email protected]>
> > >> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > >> > > > > > > > > > Thanks. I can see Melisa's comment. Ho well. She can
> > >> > > > > > > > > > always
> > >> > > > > return it.
>
> > >> > > > > > > > > > On Mar 31, 4:18 pm, Peli <[email protected]>
> > >> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > It seems to appear here:
>
> >http://www.cyrket.com/package/com.noatechnologies.android.polybreaker3d
>
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Peli
>
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 31, 10:01 pm, "Felipe (Noa Technologies)"
>
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Hello,
>
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I've just published a paid game called
> > PolyBreaker3D
> > >> > > about an
> > >> > > > > hour
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ago. Unfortunately because I have a developer
> > phone
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > >> > > > > because I
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > decided to protect it I cannot verify whether it
> > can
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > bee
> > >> > > seen
> > >> > > > > in the
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > market. Does anybody know what is the turnaround
> > for
> > >> > > this.
> > >> > > > > Can
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > somebody with a G1 do a quick check to see if my
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > game
> > >> > > shows
> > >> > > > > up in the
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > market?
>
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot!
>
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