Am Fri, 10 Apr 2009 00:20:26 +0300 schrieb Stoyan Damov <[email protected]>:
You don't need eclipse. adb can show log itself, and even nicer, Log Collector in the Market seems to be a "carry-at-all-times" solution to that problem. But yes, there have been a number of curious bugs, e.g. jjReader had some issues where Market claimed to be unable to upgrade due a nonspecified signature problem, but after uninstall & install it worked perfectly. Andreas > > No, most are NOT. People, for @#$%'s sake, you've GOT to trust me on > that. I've downloaded an e-book the other day. I read it (it's a short > story), and the next day I got an update. I installed it curious to > see what was updated (was the reader itself). I ran it. It crashed > IMMEDIATELY after launch before showing any UI. I then uninstalled it, > and re-installed it, and it started and worked flawlessly. > > I'm betting my ass that when Android updates an application it @#$%s > up something, e.g. permissions (damn me for NOT launching Eclipse when > this happened to see what exactly was the crash) and the app would > F/C. After a reinstall, everything works just fine. > > What I described is what can be seen on MANY (and list is growing) > number of applications' descriptions on Android Market (that is > "please, uninstall before update"). > > I *do* believe people make bugs (and so do I), and that there are some > very poorly developed apps on Market, but this *particular* crash > immediately after an update is a Google bug. I know it. I KNOW it. I > @#$%ING KNOW IT! > > I'm just waiting for it to happen again with another app, and me > having Eclipse around. > > Cheers > > On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 6:50 AM, Mattaku Betsujin > <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think a lot of the comments are junk. However, I think the Force > > Close ones are real. On Android, the foreground app shouldn't be > > FC'ed if there are lots of background activities. > > > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Ivan Soto <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> > >> We really need something like 'Report abuse" or "Inaccurate" > >> I try a lot of applications that run perfectly but I bet some > >> people with a lot of background applications running will > >> obviously have problems with the Force Close thing, they usually > >> just go to the market and give 1star for that. > >> I would love to report that as inaccurate, because that is just > >> not spam. Ivan Soto Fernandez > >> Web Developer > >> http://ivansotof.com > >> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Eric Mill <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> I've written on this list a couple times about the deplorable > >>> state of Android Market comment threads. It has gotten better > >>> than it used to be, though, I think the "Report as Spam" option > >>> has made an impact. > >>> > >>> You're not going to get people to change the way they express > >>> themselves about how they feel about your app, though. YouTube > >>> has played with their comment system numerous times, but the > >>> comment threads are still a gutter. It's just the audience and > >>> the culture. Blocking out basic curse words just goads people to > >>> get around the filter. > >>> > >>> Like I said though, I think it's improved, I'm not seeing the same > >>> level of vindictiveness and bile that was there in the winter. > >>> It's just going to take some more time, and it's going to have > >>> to come from the community. > >>> > >>> -- Eric > >>> > >>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Ivan Soto <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > And yet no word from Google. Although, I can say that I've seen > >>> > some kind of > >>> > moderation. (I guess) > >>> > I haven't seen a lot of comments like > >>> > "your app rocks. 5 starss... contact me [email protected]" > >>> > Which was a big issue before. Still, it needs a lot of > >>> > improvement. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Ivan Soto Fernandez > >>> > Web Developer > >>> > http://ivansotof.com > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Sean Hodges > >>> > <[email protected]> > >>> > wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> From my experience, auto filters have limited effectiveness, > >>> >> though definitely better than nothing at all. > >>> >> > >>> >> Ideally, there would be a "Report Abuse" button that acts > >>> >> similar to the spam feature, and in both cases if a Google > >>> >> account is reported a number of times it is reviewed by market > >>> >> support for inappropriate activity (I'm not sure if this is > >>> >> already the case for the spam feature). > >>> >> > >>> >> If a malicious user starts picking on another by reporting all > >>> >> their comments, the data from this can be used to review the > >>> >> reporter's account instead... People abusing the system should > >>> >> get a warning followed by a ban on the market, or some similar > >>> >> course of action. > >>> >> > >>> >> Of course, if this is too much to implement, an auto-filter > >>> >> should definitely be considered as an alternative. There are > >>> >> lots of reports requesting this in the market forum. > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 3:29 PM, > >>> >> [email protected] > >>> >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> >> > > >>> >> > Completely agree. I'm amazed there isn't an auto-filter > >>> >> > going on - it > >>> >> > would be easy to catch obvious swear words like the ones you > >>> >> > quote above. > >>> >> > > >>> >> > When I've seen abusive comments, the poster usually tries to > >>> >> > disguise > >>> >> > the swear words by changing a letter or by using asterisks > >>> >> > instead, because of fear of being moderated I guess. > >>> >> > > >>> >> > But it looks like the moderating is not happening at all. > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > On Apr 8, 2:48 pm, mask <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> >> >> This is an excerpt from an application comment: > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> "This stupid fucking shit isn't downloading/installing! > >>> >> >> What a waste > >>> >> >> sherelle 2009-04-08 04:00:44" > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> As a developer, I would like to know when is Google going > >>> >> >> to start moderating such illiterate and ignorant people > >>> >> >> from commenting on an > >>> >> >> issue developer has no control. At least, the curse words > >>> >> >> should be removed or 'moderated' for keeping the developer > >>> >> >> community sane. Keep > >>> >> >> in mind, in the long run its the developers and their > >>> >> >> application that > >>> >> >> will eventually sell and market android platform. > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> As a developer, all ignorant and abusive comments are least > >>> >> >> productive. Also Google's inaction in removing abusive > >>> >> >> comments are totally unacceptable. > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> As a developer, I request Google to take immediate action by > >>> >> >> removing > >>> >> >> comments which are abusive or totally remove commenting but > >>> >> >> keep the > >>> >> >> star rating until Google provides a complete solution. > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
