Al,

>>To try and alieviate this AndAppStore switched to a popularity chart which
covers the last 7 days only, at least that way apps have to maintain
popularity as opposed to just clocking up the numbers.<<

And what a difference this makes. I know that AndAppStore and the Android
Market are apples and oranges, but still, my app is in the top 20 on your
page and is about the 192.000th(*) in the Android Market.

(*) I don't know how to acquire a hard number for the Android Market.

On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:

>  The problem is that it's a naieve system that only works when all
> developers are considered equal.
>
> Once you get into dealing with brand names the system falls apart and it
> also isn't helped by the fact that as Market lists apps ranked by popularity
> by default thus helping popular apps stay popular and other less popular
> apps have a small window in which they're shown to the user.
>
> To try and alieviate this AndAppStore switched to a popularity chart which
> covers the last 7 days only, at least that way apps have to maintain
> popularity as opposed to just clocking up the numbers.
>
> Al.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Mariano Kamp <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 12, 2009 12:49 PM
> *Subject:* [android-discuss] Re: G1 failing miserably..
>
> I think you can only write better apps and hope that they overtake the bad
> apps. That's how the rating system is supposed to work, no? Maybe at some
> point in time the Android Market will take the more recent history of
> comments/ratings into account with a higher rating and will help to dethrone
> the (buggy) incumbents.
>
> Yeah, this is dreamy, but everything else will fail anyway.
>
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  My concern is that the the Camera is a "built-in" app, Weather channel
>> app is *the* number #1 app in terms of popularity in Market, and snake is
>> the number #5 game by popularity, and all three throw up errors like this
>> which will make the *average user* feel that Android is flaky by
>> association.
>>
>> I am a developer, I can understand how things like this can happen, but
>> this is not a developer-only product we're talking about. This is something
>> that is aiming to be as popular as possible and used by everyone from kids
>> to pensioners.
>>
>> So maybe the discussion should be; What do we do? Do we name and shame
>> apps to try and get them improved? Do we look at improving the OS to deal
>> with situations like this in a better manner that doesn't require users to
>> be shown error messages they may not understand?, or do we carry on with the
>> current system where we expect users to educate themselves to deal with
>> problems like this?
>>
>> To me the last one isn't part of the path to success.
>>
>> Al.
>>
>> ---
>>
>> * Written an Android App? - List it at http://andappstore.com/ *
>>
>> ======
>> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the
>> company number  6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House,
>> 152-160 City Road, London,  EC1V 2NX, UK.
>>
>> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
>> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
>> subsidiaries.
>>
>>
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mariano Kamp
>> *Sent:* 12 April 2009 11:38
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* [android-discuss] Re: G1 failing miserably..
>>
>>   This guy is a developer, and an Android developer on top of that,
>> himself. So he is not trying to understand what the dialogs mean. He knows.
>> So he seems to be publicly shaming apps for not being up to the expected
>> standards (long running operations on the UI thread, forced closes) – and by
>> association, the platform.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Pd <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Al,
>>>
>>> My curiosity got the better of me so I've just downloaded the Weather
>>> Channel app to see if I could re-create the problem Eric saw.  Sadly I
>>> did.
>>>
>>> With the weather channel app I saw the force close dialog when the app
>>> was accessing the Internet for a weather update.  I think the problem
>>> may be that the Activity is waiting for data from the call for new
>>> weather data.  I guess the way around it would be to put all networking
>>> calls in a service and poll for data when required by the UI Activity.
>>> This way the UI doesn't have to hang around for a reply and the service
>>> can update the UI when data is ready.  Sort of fire and forget.  For
>>> user friendliness I would put a "Loading data, please wait!" type
>>> message in the tab which gets replaced with data when retrieved by the
>>> service.
>>>
>>> Then again I could be miles off the mark  ;-)
>>>
>>> Pd.
>>>
>>>
>>> Al Sutton wrote:
>>> > http://stuffthathappens.com/blog/2009/04/11/android-hall-of-shame/
>>> >
>>> > Not a happy user, any ideas on what would cause this and how to fix it?
>>> >
>>> > Al.
>>> >
>>> > ---
>>> >
>>> > * Written an Android App? - List it at http://andappstore.com/ *
>>> >
>>> > ======
>>> > Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the
>>> > company number  6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House,
>>> > 152-160 City Road, London,  EC1V 2NX, UK.
>>> >
>>> > The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
>>> > necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
>>> > subsidiaries.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> >
>

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