Haha, no I won't help you figure out how to make your click fraud
application.  Sorry.

-Josh

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Mattaku Betsujin
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Can you explain how Google can catch that? Especially the click bots are
> coordinated and always keep their activities at a low threshold?
>
> There are lots of malicious click bot networks operated by mafias and such.
> Estimates of click frauds range from a few percent to a few tens of percent.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Josh Steiner <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> It is click fraud. If Google catches on that that's happening their
>> only recourse is to pull the account of the site you are "helping".
>> This is a stupid idea that will only hurt site operators.
>>
>> -j
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Mattaku Betsujin
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Surely the app will not ship with a default site. Otherwise this site
>> > will
>> > be blacklisted by all ad agencies very soon.
>> >
>> > However, I think such an app will benefit a lot of popular forum sites.
>> > Imaging this -- from time to time, some user will post, "hey guys, if
>> > you
>> > want to support xyzforum.com, install Ad Support on your Android phone
>> > and
>> > enter 'xyzforum.com'".
>> >
>> > Since the message is posted by a random user, and not by the site's
>> > owner,
>> > it will be hard for the ad agency to take any actions against the site.
>> >
>> > Also, if the site already has a lot of users, and some of them do
>> > legitimately click ads, the extra fake clicks can't reliably be
>> > detected.
>> > The only thing you could do is to disqualify all clicks originated from
>> > Android phones, but probably Google would not do that, or else there
>> > will be
>> > no point developing Android from the first place!
>> >
>> > This kind of "benevolent click bots" were not possible in the past
>> > because
>> > people will not want to install native apps on their PC just to support
>> > their favorite web site, due to the security risks involved. But now
>> > that
>> > Android provides much better application security, I think people will
>> > be
>> > more willing to install these bots.
>> >
>> > So the way I see it, in the future, this kind of parasites will keep
>> > growing, especially on Android ....
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Josh Steiner <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I doubt they'd end up in jail, but the site that you are targetting
>> >> will surely get their account booted from googles ad programs for
>> >> violating click-fraud TOS.
>> >>
>> >> -j
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Mattaku Betsujin
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> > Here's an idea for an app -- "ad support". It allows you to enter
>> >> > your
>> >> > favorite site(s). Then, every day, it will discretely click a few ads
>> >> > on
>> >> > that site. That way, you can give you favorite site a little boost.
>> >> >
>> >> > Will Google allow such an app on the Market?
>> >> >
>> >> > Will Google be able to stop such an app from functioning?
>> >> >
>> >> > Is there anything illegal about doing this? Will the author (or user)
>> >> > of
>> >> > this app end up in jail?
>> >> >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>
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> >
>

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