Thanks, but I wasn't looking for advice for how to do click fraud. I think the whole theory of click fraud detection is rather tenuous :-)
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Josh Steiner <[email protected]> wrote: > > Haha, no I won't help you figure out how to make your click fraud > application. Sorry. > > -Josh > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Mattaku Betsujin > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Can you explain how Google can catch that? Especially the click bots are > > coordinated and always keep their activities at a low threshold? > > > > There are lots of malicious click bot networks operated by mafias and > such. > > Estimates of click frauds range from a few percent to a few tens of > percent. > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Josh Steiner <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> It is click fraud. If Google catches on that that's happening their > >> only recourse is to pull the account of the site you are "helping". > >> This is a stupid idea that will only hurt site operators. > >> > >> -j > >> > >> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Mattaku Betsujin > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Surely the app will not ship with a default site. Otherwise this site > >> > will > >> > be blacklisted by all ad agencies very soon. > >> > > >> > However, I think such an app will benefit a lot of popular forum > sites. > >> > Imaging this -- from time to time, some user will post, "hey guys, if > >> > you > >> > want to support xyzforum.com, install Ad Support on your Android > phone > >> > and > >> > enter 'xyzforum.com'". > >> > > >> > Since the message is posted by a random user, and not by the site's > >> > owner, > >> > it will be hard for the ad agency to take any actions against the > site. > >> > > >> > Also, if the site already has a lot of users, and some of them do > >> > legitimately click ads, the extra fake clicks can't reliably be > >> > detected. > >> > The only thing you could do is to disqualify all clicks originated > from > >> > Android phones, but probably Google would not do that, or else there > >> > will be > >> > no point developing Android from the first place! > >> > > >> > This kind of "benevolent click bots" were not possible in the past > >> > because > >> > people will not want to install native apps on their PC just to > support > >> > their favorite web site, due to the security risks involved. But now > >> > that > >> > Android provides much better application security, I think people will > >> > be > >> > more willing to install these bots. > >> > > >> > So the way I see it, in the future, this kind of parasites will keep > >> > growing, especially on Android .... > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Josh Steiner <[email protected]> > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> I doubt they'd end up in jail, but the site that you are targetting > >> >> will surely get their account booted from googles ad programs for > >> >> violating click-fraud TOS. > >> >> > >> >> -j > >> >> > >> >> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Mattaku Betsujin > >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > Here's an idea for an app -- "ad support". It allows you to enter > >> >> > your > >> >> > favorite site(s). Then, every day, it will discretely click a few > ads > >> >> > on > >> >> > that site. That way, you can give you favorite site a little boost. > >> >> > > >> >> > Will Google allow such an app on the Market? > >> >> > > >> >> > Will Google be able to stop such an app from functioning? > >> >> > > >> >> > Is there anything illegal about doing this? Will the author (or > user) > >> >> > of > >> >> > this app end up in jail? > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
