I fully support not updating them through the entire contract, my concern is 
that they'll stop getting updates while T-Mobile are still selling the G1 and 
signing people up for new contracts.

So if T-Mobile are going to stop selling the G1 in 6 months time then any time 
after this is fair enough, but if an Android user is raving about it on their 
'phone to a friend I can see real PR problems if that friend goes and buys a 
new G1 on a T-Mobile contract only to find that it is running an older version 
of Android and can't be updated.

Al.

P.S. Does the ADP1 have the same OS capacity as the G1?, if so wouldn't ending 
firmware updates for it alienate the very people who help the platform grow?

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jean-Baptiste Queru
Sent: 14 August 2009 12:54
To: [email protected]
Subject: [android-discuss] Re: Why Google Android is open source?


On the other hand users really don't like it if an update removes
functionality that used to work in a previous release, and as the
framework itself grows that option ends up being the only way to
continue to make the system fit on small devices. We already hear the
feedback loud and clear when regressions happen because of bugs that
only affect small number of users, and this'd probably be much worse
if a feature was taken away from every single user by design.

At some point this is a no-win situation, something has to give.
Looking at the speed at which the system grew from 1.0 to 1.5 in about
6 months (and at the effort that already had to go into making 1.5 fit
on a G1), we've got to realistically anticipate that a G1 sold today
with a 2-year contract might not be able to run the latest and
greatest version of Android 2 years down the road.

My concern, personally, isn't about the core Android itself, it's
about 3rd-party apps: the situation really becomes annoying when it
becomes impractical for developers to support a broad variety of
devices with a single version of their application, i.e. if supporting
different devices requires to target different versions of the core
framework.

JBQ

On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 12:44 AM, Al Sutton<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I think it would be a big PR disaster to stop updates for the G1 before it's 
> taken off the shelves.
>
> Nobody likes buying something new only to find out that it's no longer being 
> supported with updates.
>
> Al.
>
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>
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> company number  6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House,
> 152-160 City Road, London,  EC1V 2NX, UK.
>
> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
> subsidiaries.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of wimbet
> Sent: 14 August 2009 08:37
> To: Android Discuss
> Subject: [android-discuss] Re: Why Google Android is open source?
>
>
>>Where the situation is really tricky is that the system partition on
>>the US G1 was already filled to the brim with cupcake, and we were
>>routinely flirting with build sizes that were a few dozen kB under the
>>limit (or several MB over...), which means that even small changes to
>>the core platform could very easily push the system size over the
>>limit and staying under the limit took some effort.
>
> So how much longer before the G1 is done getting updates?  Is Donut
> the final one?  Or does that not fit in the system partition either.
>
>
> >
>



-- 
Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru
Software Engineer, Android Open-Source Project, Google.

Questions sent directly to me that have no reason for being private
will likely get ignored or forwarded to a public forum with no further
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