Romain, FrogPad has Multi touch IP.  It was granted in 1998 and 4 of
the modalities are critical for multi touch.  We have a particular app
we are interested in developing for multi touch. Would you be so kind
as to contact me directly at Froginfo at frogpad com Linda

On Aug 12, 12:00 pm, Romain Guy <[email protected]> wrote:
> > OK, how about David Goldfarb's video ringtone support patches? He
> > started working on those a long time ago. Originally the patches had
> > several issues with them, Google was quick to jump in and point out
> > what was wrong. He resolved the issues and submitted his patches again
> > (over a month ago). Once the patches lacked the issues pointed out,
> > what happens then? Nothing.
>
> David had long discussions directly with the media team and myself by
> email about his patch. Last time I checked his work the UI he was
> proposing was still not acceptable for inclusion in the platform.
>
> > It seems you don't understand. The entire ecosystem is being strangled
> > by this. It's not a nice to have feature. It seems like if someone
> > over there did understand, this would be a feature in Donut. If you've
> > starred the feature request in the bug database you'd understand how
> > angry people are about this. But I don't think anybody is even
> > notified when people post "Wow! I am getting way too much email from
> > having this issue starred, so I'm unstarring it".
>
> Wanting this feature does not mean we will add it at this point of the
> development process. The same applies to all of the features the core
> Android team would like to add and know would be enjoyed by many. In
> this particular case, and I talked briefly with the author about it,
> we also need to take into account the binary size of this feature (at
> least if you guys want the final build to fit on an HTC Dream/T-Mobile
> G1), the added dependency (new library) and the extra QA. This just
> cannot happen for Donut. We also need to see if it's something that
> makes sense to support in Android. Yes this issue was starred by 80
> people. But this number is (unfortunately) dwarfed by the number of
> users of Android and we need to question the fact whether this feature
> would be used by enough people to warrant its inclusion. That's true
> of all features we include. Now in this particular case an Android
> engineer has been actively participating on the bug report and even
> took measure of the impact on batter life. Not having this feature in
> Donut is not a question of us ignoring it, it's just about the fact
> that it's too late in the development cycle. Period.
>
> > That's what you say.
> > Name one significant user visible feature that
> > has made its way from a non OHA member contributor from the public
> > repository into Donut in Google's private repo. Not a bugfix, or a
> > typo. Something visible to the user in the way that FLAC support or
> > Video Ringtones or something of that ilk would be. My point is, how
> > many contributions do you expect to receive when the worthy ones so
> > far are still unattended to?
>
> FLAC was too late and video ringtones were still not in good enough
> state. I just told you I am committed to accepting features and bug
> fixes from the community in specific areas. I cannot point you to
> features that have been merged in these areas if I don't receive
> patches in the first place. I would also be happy to discuss potential
> changes and their impact and relevance. Also please remember that
> because a feature, even if great, is submitted it does not mean it
> will make it into Android. There should be little reason for a feature
> to not make it but accept the fact that we cannot accept just *any*
> feature, especially considering some constraints we have to deal with
> (like the firmware size limit on 1st generation phones.)
>
> --
> Romain Guy
> Android framework engineer
> [email protected]
>
> Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time
> to provide private support.  All such questions should be posted on
> public forums, where I and others can see and answer them

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