Yes and no - fwiw I got a polite "heads up" way back when I was
distributing hardware-runnable versions of AOSP because of the various
proprietary bins. (No google -apps-, but the horrid mix of google and
HTC bits you need to get it to boot, make calls, etc.)

It isn't (directly) why I stopped, but I was basically told "btw, we
see this and yes it sucks that you can't do dev, but we may have to do
something about it at some future point."

That sort of bullshit is why I stopped taking an active role in
android dev - once the n900 comes out, I'm gonna give maemo another
try. (Remember way back when googs claimed nobody could make an OSS
phone? Before they changed to "well, WE won't make an OSS phone..")

I'm thinking it could be fun to port dalvik to run android apps as
native-ish (wine-style) maemo apps.

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 10:16 AM, lbcoder <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Geeze,
>
> This isn't too complicated.
> Just because an organization has open source software doesn't mean
> that their software is *ALL* open source or freely redistributable.
>
> Inclusion of the closed source google apps in these hacker roms is
> PIRACY, plain and simple, and Google *does* have the right to protect
> their property.
>
>
> The simple solution is to just NOT INCLUDE the google apps for which
> the rom maker doesn't have a redistribution license.
> Is there any particular reason why these roms MUST contain all those
> closed source apps? Nope. If a user really wants them, nothing to stop
> them from adding them in. As I understand it, htc's license (in
> distributing official ADP1 system images with google apps) allows them
> to license those google apps for installation to official ADP1 devices
> regardless of the source of the overall system image, so owners of
> ADP1 devices can LEGALLY use a mod rom and install the closed-source
> google apps.
>
>
> As for Google's motives here, It doesn't appear to be just the
> redistribution of their closed source apps. It appears to be more
> specifically related to the distribution of the PRERELEASE DONUT
> MARKET APPLICATION.
>
> In other words, if this cyanogen character didn't (a) somehow steal
> the prerelease donut market app, and (b) include it with cyanogenmod
> roms, it is most likely that Google would have simply IGNORED HIM as
> has been their (apparent) policy in the past.
>
> On Sep 24, 7:03 pm, schwiz <[email protected]> wrote:
>> So everytime I have seen someone ask about apps2sd for android, the
>> response has been something along the lines of 'well if you don't like
>> the space on the phone modify it yourself if its that easy'  Someone
>> takes this to heart and does it for free for thousands of users who
>> are already supporting google and you shut them down?  Now we have to
>> pick between having space for apps on our phone -OR- not having the
>> marketplace on our phone anymore so it doesn't even matter?  I highly
>> suggest if you are going to C&D cyanogen to  give users who have PAID
>> for a 'powered by google' android device to backup their google apps
>> that they paid for.  We have paid for the software we should be
>> entitled to use it with any build of android we choose.  Otherwise,
>> you might want to try taking user requests a little more seriously.
> >
>

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