I see the money aspect of it as you need to cover costs, but when the ROM does not deter $ from Google or generate $ for the person making it then I see no right to fight this. Google will still make its money on browsing clicks. The Gmail app is just a widget like interface in a way. I get no adds through it. It seems like a dumb move to tell the whole world, "Hey we made this completely open source software," then turn around threaten someone who has made your "open source" a bit more efficient. Lets be honest. The hardware SUCKS on these phone. They are running on limited RAM and 2 yr old cpus. Their design....well the Cliq n Hero seem to be best, but myTouch and G1 are not pretty. And up to now, most if not all lag. The only reason people have and will shell out $200+ for these phones is on the promise that it is open sourced. The promise that you as the buyer of hardware and software could do what you will and make the phone operate the way you want. Is Cyanogen's ROM cutting into your profits? If it is...please state how. (Facts and figures) Since it seems the money will be made in the clicks and market. Secondly, not every phone can use Android. Since the drivers are limited, and that's where you guys come in. People shell out $200+ to buy your software, "with Google." Manufacturers and Providers have seen the impact of your software and will pay manufacturers to implement your software on phones and your networks. The thing is, if Cyanogen can produce a better ROM than you guys why not offer him a job? His ROM allows you to do two things you guys can't seem to make happen. 1. Make the system more responsive and lag free. 2. One is able to store programs in an SD card and not be limited BY THE 1980's 188mb (after ROM) drive space. Which by the way, MS Mobile 6.0 can let the user do.
I'm a Google fan and have written articles giving props to Docs and Google Voice, but this cease notice is really dumb and in a way going against the rebel reputation Google has carved for itself. On Sep 26, 2:20 am, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > One of the reasons we allow the AndAppStore client to be freely > distributed is that its' not the distribution that pays for the > servers, etc. it's the on-site and in-app advertising, so free > distribution is an option. We haven't open sourced the app because it > would allow developers to produce an app which uses our services but > generates no revenue for us, and hence we'd not cover our running costs. > > The decision to relicenses will probably be significantly affected by > the business model used to cover the costs of servers and not just by > a desire to do so. > > Al. > -- > > * Looking for Android Apps? - Tryhttp://andappstore.com/* > > ====== > Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the > company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, > 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. > > The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not > necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's > subsidiaries. > > On 25 Sep 2009, at 20:20, Josh Steiner wrote: > > > They don't have to open source it. All they have to do is extend a > > "not for profit" right to distribute the binaries, like Adobe does > > with Acrobat. If a handset manufacturer wants to distribute the > > apps, they still have to go through the screening/certification > > process that Google rightly wants in place, but community moders > > like Cyanogen would get a free license to distribute, as long as > > they weren't charging for their mods. > > > -Josh > > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 11:52 AM, lbcoder <[email protected]> wrote: > > > They can't open source the market app due to the $$ nature of it. Sure > > the transactions could be handled safely by an open source app, but > > enforcing that they are installed to app-private cant be done. > > > On Sep 25, 12:17 am, williamthrilliam <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > This is really just wrong. If you are that concerned about your > > image > > > and trade mark, open source the closed bits and let others > > > redistribute it under another name. There are other ways to go > > about > > > this, and this should not have been your first step. > > > > On Sep 24, 10:08 pm, Josh Steiner <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > This is one of the stupidest moves I've seen a company do in a > > while. > > > > First, wait til an organic community developer group forms > > around your > > > > product, wait til they release improved version of your free OS, > > let them > > > > hype it to death for you... then C&D them out of existence until > > they all go > > > > tinker with Maemo or Linmo (or iPhone or Web OS) devices. > > > > > It doesn't matter if Google, Inc are legally correct, this is a > > boneheaded > > > > business decision. > > > > > -Josh > > > > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 4:03 PM, schwiz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > So everytime I have seen someone ask about apps2sd for > > android, the > > > > > response has been something along the lines of 'well if you > > don't like > > > > > the space on the phone modify it yourself if its that easy' > > Someone > > > > > takes this to heart and does it for free for thousands of > > users who > > > > > are already supporting google and you shut them down? Now we > > have to > > > > > pick between having space for apps on our phone -OR- not > > having the > > > > > marketplace on our phone anymore so it doesn't even matter? I > > highly > > > > > suggest if you are going to C&D cyanogen to give users who > > have PAID > > > > > for a 'powered by google' android device to backup their > > google apps > > > > > that they paid for. We have paid for the software we should be > > > > > entitled to use it with any build of android we choose. > > Otherwise, > > > > > you might want to try taking user requests a little more > > seriously. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
