Why did the take a yr to do this?
Why not come off the bat and mention it?
A lot of fine print is meant to drag and confuse people.
DId you read the whole fine print in your credit card, cable tv,
android phone, pc/mac OS?


On Sep 29, 9:35 am, lbcoder <[email protected]> wrote:
> That is only the case if you *DON'T READ*.
>
> Android is android -- see OHA, AOSP.
> "With Google" means "With Google" -- see Google.
>
> When you sync with AOSP repo, the closed source "with google" stuff is
> NOT THERE.
>
> The licenses are ALL included IN YOUR PHONE. Settings/About/Licenses.
> Read them. Didn't know they were there? Your own fault for not
> looking!
>
> On Sep 28, 6:40 pm, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > It's not really that. Is that they provide android and the "with
> > Google" experience  yet they do not differentiate between both. Then a
> > year later they provide the most recognized developer with a C&D
> > letter.
> > And who is to say this will stop?
>
> > On Sep 28, 5:12 pm, lbcoder <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > This is nothing more than a minor change in procedure. The end results
> > > are no difference EXCEPT that the lawyers will be happy.
>
> > > Read.
> > > Think.
>
> > > The only reason people are "pissed off" is that they are too dumb to
> > > read and understand what is going on.
>
> > > On Sep 26, 3:17 am, W <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Well said.  This is firing a bullet right into your own toes.  No one
> > > > is disputing Google's legal right to do this.  It's about how
> > > > fundamentally stupid it is to piss off your most ardent and
> > > > technically savvy supporters.  Unless Google reverses course here, the
> > > > next few plays are pretty straightforward-- (1) cyanogen and other
> > > > developers move to another platform (sucking air, advocacy, and
> > > > momentum from Android's adoption) or (2) a serious effort gets
> > > > underway to replace the proprietary .apks/apis with true open-source
> > > > replacements-- a map app that uses openstreetmap (with turn-by-turn),
> > > > a better IMAP client for gmail, an alternative market app like
> > > > andappstore, etc.  Eventually the IP-unencumbered alternatives will be
> > > > as good or better than Google's offerings, and what will Google have
> > > > gained?  This is how it's worked with open-source since the beginning
> > > > of time.
>
> > > > It is strategically unwise for Google to publicly advocate FOSS
> > > > development, build an entire platform on FOSS codebase, promote FOSS
> > > > philosophy to win market share and mindshare, then take a massive dump
> > > > all over their burgeoning development community and fan base.  (and if
> > > > you don't think that's what's happened, read the comments on xda-
> > > > developers, android blogs, or most of the Google apps in the Market)
>
> > > > W
>
> > > > On Sep 24, 8:08 pm, Josh Steiner <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > This is one of the stupidest moves I've seen a company do in a while.
> > > > > First, wait til an organic community developer group forms around your
> > > > > product, wait til they release improved version of your free OS, let 
> > > > > them
> > > > > hype it to death for you... then C&D them out of existence until they 
> > > > > all go
> > > > > tinker with Maemo or Linmo (or iPhone or Web OS) devices.
>
> > > > > It doesn't matter if Google, Inc are legally correct, this is a 
> > > > > boneheaded
> > > > > business decision.
>
> > > > > -Josh
>
> > > > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 4:03 PM, schwiz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > So everytime I have seen someone ask about apps2sd for android, the
> > > > > > response has been something along the lines of 'well if you don't 
> > > > > > like
> > > > > > the space on the phone modify it yourself if its that easy'  Someone
> > > > > > takes this to heart and does it for free for thousands of users who
> > > > > > are already supporting google and you shut them down?  Now we have 
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > pick between having space for apps on our phone -OR- not having the
> > > > > > marketplace on our phone anymore so it doesn't even matter?  I 
> > > > > > highly
> > > > > > suggest if you are going to C&D cyanogen to  give users who have 
> > > > > > PAID
> > > > > > for a 'powered by google' android device to backup their google apps
> > > > > > that they paid for.  We have paid for the software we should be
> > > > > > entitled to use it with any build of android we choose.  Otherwise,
> > > > > > you might want to try taking user requests a little more seriously.
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