Rob, I read the fine print on practically everything I accept, especially if
I am paying a hefty amount of money for it.
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On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Why did the take a yr to do this?
> Why not come off the bat and mention it?
> A lot of fine print is meant to drag and confuse people.
> DId you read the whole fine print in your credit card, cable tv,
> android phone, pc/mac OS?
>
>
> On Sep 29, 9:35 am, lbcoder <[email protected]> wrote:
> > That is only the case if you *DON'T READ*.
> >
> > Android is android -- see OHA, AOSP.
> > "With Google" means "With Google" -- see Google.
> >
> > When you sync with AOSP repo, the closed source "with google" stuff is
> > NOT THERE.
> >
> > The licenses are ALL included IN YOUR PHONE. Settings/About/Licenses.
> > Read them. Didn't know they were there? Your own fault for not
> > looking!
> >
> > On Sep 28, 6:40 pm, Rob <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > It's not really that. Is that they provide android and the "with
> > > Google" experience  yet they do not differentiate between both. Then a
> > > year later they provide the most recognized developer with a C&D
> > > letter.
> > > And who is to say this will stop?
> >
> > > On Sep 28, 5:12 pm, lbcoder <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > This is nothing more than a minor change in procedure. The end
> results
> > > > are no difference EXCEPT that the lawyers will be happy.
> >
> > > > Read.
> > > > Think.
> >
> > > > The only reason people are "pissed off" is that they are too dumb to
> > > > read and understand what is going on.
> >
> > > > On Sep 26, 3:17 am, W <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > Well said.  This is firing a bullet right into your own toes.  No
> one
> > > > > is disputing Google's legal right to do this.  It's about how
> > > > > fundamentally stupid it is to piss off your most ardent and
> > > > > technically savvy supporters.  Unless Google reverses course here,
> the
> > > > > next few plays are pretty straightforward-- (1) cyanogen and other
> > > > > developers move to another platform (sucking air, advocacy, and
> > > > > momentum from Android's adoption) or (2) a serious effort gets
> > > > > underway to replace the proprietary .apks/apis with true
> open-source
> > > > > replacements-- a map app that uses openstreetmap (with
> turn-by-turn),
> > > > > a better IMAP client for gmail, an alternative market app like
> > > > > andappstore, etc.  Eventually the IP-unencumbered alternatives will
> be
> > > > > as good or better than Google's offerings, and what will Google
> have
> > > > > gained?  This is how it's worked with open-source since the
> beginning
> > > > > of time.
> >
> > > > > It is strategically unwise for Google to publicly advocate FOSS
> > > > > development, build an entire platform on FOSS codebase, promote
> FOSS
> > > > > philosophy to win market share and mindshare, then take a massive
> dump
> > > > > all over their burgeoning development community and fan base.  (and
> if
> > > > > you don't think that's what's happened, read the comments on xda-
> > > > > developers, android blogs, or most of the Google apps in the
> Market)
> >
> > > > > W
> >
> > > > > On Sep 24, 8:08 pm, Josh Steiner <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > This is one of the stupidest moves I've seen a company do in a
> while.
> > > > > > First, wait til an organic community developer group forms around
> your
> > > > > > product, wait til they release improved version of your free OS,
> let them
> > > > > > hype it to death for you... then C&D them out of existence until
> they all go
> > > > > > tinker with Maemo or Linmo (or iPhone or Web OS) devices.
> >
> > > > > > It doesn't matter if Google, Inc are legally correct, this is a
> boneheaded
> > > > > > business decision.
> >
> > > > > > -Josh
> >
> > > > > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 4:03 PM, schwiz <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > So everytime I have seen someone ask about apps2sd for android,
> the
> > > > > > > response has been something along the lines of 'well if you
> don't like
> > > > > > > the space on the phone modify it yourself if its that easy'
>  Someone
> > > > > > > takes this to heart and does it for free for thousands of users
> who
> > > > > > > are already supporting google and you shut them down?  Now we
> have to
> > > > > > > pick between having space for apps on our phone -OR- not having
> the
> > > > > > > marketplace on our phone anymore so it doesn't even matter?  I
> highly
> > > > > > > suggest if you are going to C&D cyanogen to  give users who
> have PAID
> > > > > > > for a 'powered by google' android device to backup their google
> apps
> > > > > > > that they paid for.  We have paid for the software we should be
> > > > > > > entitled to use it with any build of android we choose.
>  Otherwise,
> > > > > > > you might want to try taking user requests a little more
> seriously.
> >
>

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