On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 05:49, Arron <[email protected]> wrote: > > Sales tax is usually imposed onto the buyer so by not collecting these > up front, developers are now charged for this amount. Inside Google > Checkout, they have an area where you can specify sales taxes but I > have to manually input all the percents. Maintaining the right sale > tax %, informing buyers about this (since they will freak out), and > separating this out from your normal income will be a big HASSLE. > Additionally Google Checkout in general offers the poorest reporting > features I have seen from any of the other competitors. > > Companies pay heavy money for accounting firms to do this for them. > As a developer, I have to take care of all of this?? I am unsure of > what to do and will probably do it wrong. And considering that I did > not impose any sales taxes to my buyers so far, I will need to pay all > of that out of my own pocket. > > Apple calculates ALL of this for you and is included in their 30% > cut... > > Android Market is terrible and Google/Android in general has no idea > what the heck they are doing. I wonder if they even thought this out > correctly at all. > > On Nov 10, 8:22 pm, Brian Conrad <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'm not a tax attorney either and yes having been a contract programmer > > for years I know the form C and 1099 stuff. But the Google clause is > > about the developers collecting sales tax. I'm not sure that is even > > legal. It would be like asking Kraft Foods to collect sales tax for > > their products sold at Safeway. If Google is going to operate a market > > I believe under the law they are liable for collecting the taxes not the > > vendors. But I'll be looking some more at the agreement tomorrow. > > > > - Brian > > > > > > > > niko20 wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > I'm no tax lawyer, but in the past years I've done contract jobs on > > > rentacoder.com, they don't do any tax stuff either, but at the end of > > > the year you get a 1099 form. I'm assuming Google may send us one of > > > those. If not, you can report your income anyway in the U.S. on a > > > Schedule C form. It's not really that hard. It's called self > > > employment tax. > > > > > The big benefit is you can deduct anything that is a business related > > > expense before applying the tax. Last year you could deduct up to > > > about $5000 without having to itemize the deductions. > > > > > Just check out the irs.gov website, it explains everything pretty > > > well. > > > > > -niko > > > > > On Nov 10, 9:13 pm, Brian Conrad <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> This whole area of taxes for online purchases is rather gray. I also > > >> sell products using Digital River with their SWReg service. They take > > >> care of all tax issues and have the software in place for it. With > > >> Digital River taxes are only charged in states where they have offices > > >> or states that have passed tax laws for online purchases. They may > also > > >> charge VAT taxes for countries that are applicable. The developer > > >> doesn't have to worry about it. > > > > >> Google not being as mature a company as Digital River must not be up > to > > >> building such an infrastructure. Either that or a lazy legal counsel > > >> who thinks they should just dump the issue on developers. > > > > >> Brian Conrad > > >> JyotishTools.com > > > > >> Arron wrote: > > > > >>> WOW the more I read, I am getting disheartened by Google's approach. > > >>> Apparently developers have to handle ALL SALES tax on their own. > > >>> Seriously can they make a life of a developer harder? Apple's > > >>> AppStore handles all taxes for you and Google Android Market does > > >>> not? Are you serious? A small developer like me can really figure > out > > >>> what to do with sales taxes for US and other countries in the world? > > > > >>> Sometimes Google's approaches make them seem so immature compared to > > >>> other companies. Do they even know what they are doing? > > > > >>> At this point, I am unsure what to do at all. I have tons of sales > > >>> sold without any taxes imposed onto the buyer. How do I report this > > >>> back to the tax agencies? I might have to go to the route of hiring > a > > >>> tax consultant just to deal with this and Google thinks developers > > >>> will flock to Google to do this type of BS? > > > > >>> What is Google thinking?! Please tell me I am totally wrong on this. > > > > >>> On Nov 10, 5:19 pm, Arron <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>>> I have been selling my application on the Android Market for over a > > >>>> period of 6 months. I wasn't aware of all the tax issues that I > have > > >>>> recently been reading about. > > >>>> I have read various threads about seller taxes and now I am deeply > > >>>> confused on what to do. > > > > >>>> 1) I do not see any developers charging sales tax at all for their > > >>>> applications > > >>>> 2) Do I need to charge sales tax? > > >>>> 3) Is there a chart anywhere to tell me what sales tax I should > input? > > >>>> 4) Once I input the sales tax and the buyer gets charged, does it > > >>>> automatically go to the US government? > > > > >>>> Sorry I am a complete noob on this and Google is definitely making > it > > >>>> difficult to understand. I do not want to get into any issues with > > >>>> taxes. Any tax genius out there that has any ideas on what to do? > > > > >>> -- > > > > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Android Discuss" group. > > >>> To post to this group, send email to > [email protected]. > > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<android-discuss%[email protected]> > . > > >>> For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=. > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Android Discuss" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<android-discuss%[email protected]> > . > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=. > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Android Discuss" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<android-discuss%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=. > > > As a customer (I have not yet published anything on the Market) this indeed is confusing : For some apps (ex PicSay Pro), displayed price (in €, ok for me since I am in france) in applications list (and app detail) does not include VAT, but then in Market's Google Checkout page (buying confirmation), the VAT is added. (there are both base price and additional VAT amount shown). -> this means that in app list you can't really compare since shown price is "VAT excluded", so real price may differ depending on the app. And I presume that depending of how the seller published its app (by specifying taxes or not ?), for some it is "VAT included" (??). Anyway for some apps I will discover at buy time only that I have to pay more, and for others, no....
Another similar problem (but not directly due to these taxes), I am also charged additional taxes on my VISA Card when buying apps not in € (1€ tax for each app, + some percentage of the price !) . Big problem is that at buy time there is not any indication this may happen. I had the surprise the next month on my Bank bill ! Oh.... and with the same VISA card, using Paypal I do not have this problem since Paypal does the currency conversion itself, and charges my card in € . Result is I do not buy anymore apps that are not charged in €, and in general I am more reluctant for buying anything from the Market.... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=.
